• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I can hardly believe Ukraine has hit Russian refineries so fucking badly that Russia has stopped exporting refined go juice. That’s the biggest news of this war for me. A petro state, their economy and no less their war machine, depends on oil, and they can no longer export refined fuel?!

    Now if Europe would press the attack and finish this thing. America can no longer be counted upon and the enemy is at the fucking gates. Hammer Russia fucking flat while they’re on their back foot. Fuck are they waiting for?!

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      6 hours ago

      so the way i understand it, at first refinery strikes had little impact because other refineries still had slack capacity. but even before that slack capacity was gone, it had a further effect that now fuel was not prepared in places it used to be, so it had to be hauled longer distances. meaning logistics is strained and some fuel is used to haul it, and also now fuel production is more concentrated

      at some point that slack capacity was gone and fuel went from not where you need it to not existing at all. there already were shortages in some regions. that and still large demand for fuel for farming caused decrease in exports. there was a refinery that only produces products for export, and its output wouldn’t be directly usable as fuel (they only distilled crude into fractions, still high in sulfur etc) but it was also hit so exports from it don’t matter because these are none

      at any rate these developments are on borrowed time because it only takes maybe half year to repair more advanced parts of refinery, so under certain droning intensity they can just roll on. everyone involved knows that, and looks like situation will get worse for russians

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        3 hours ago

        Did not consider the logistics of using fuel to move fuel! Sounds even worse for the Russians than I had thought. And I’m fucking fine with that.