• ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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    No, you didn’t.

    He says he voted for illegal immigrants to be deported, and now he’s being negatively affected by legal immigration being hindered.

    LAMF is all about voting in support of X, but assuming (without evidence) that X will only happen to others. This would only be LAMF if his wife was an illegal immigrant.

    This is not LAMF.

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      This guy voted to deport immigrants and is upset an immigrant is being deported.

      “He’s hurting the wrong people”

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        This guy voted to deport immigrants

        Not immigrants, illegal immigrants. Stop being disingenuous, his words are right there.

        I know it’s easier to win an argument against a straw man, but have the integrity to engage with what was actually said.

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            So if someone voted to throw away red apples, and is now complaining that he can’t buy a green apple, you’d actually retort to that guy ‘well, you voted to throw away apples, red apples are apples’?

            Do you really not understand how ridiculous that response is?

            I voted to put criminals in jail, now my law-abiding spouse is being put in jail!
            Hey, you voted to put people in jail, criminals are people and your spouse is a person, that’s on you

            lol

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              “Red apples start off green so we got rid of the green ones in case they were actually red”

              “But I only voted to get rid of RED apples!!”

              This post explained using your own analogy

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              lol you must be a special breed of stupid if you still think Trump literally and only meant “illegal in the traditional sense”…

              They’re rewriting immigration laws SO THEY CAN FREELY TARGET MORE PEOPLE WITHOUT ANY LEGAL RECOURSE AGAINST THEM. This isn’t rocket science, yet it seems to befuddle you… Sad.

              Pathetically sad.

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              Here’s a puzzler.

              Did he start with illegals as the first stage in a general campaign to eliminate the poor and undersirable by force, or, now that he has moved to all immigrants, is he going to stop?

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          You are either a right winger trying to justify the current events by using the terms “immigrants” and “illegal immigrants” by their exact dictionary meaning instead of for the racist dog whistle content they are used in by the current American administration and their voters, or you are on purpose ignorant of the concept of this community. Both of which don’t really necessitate a proper discussion since it just looks like you’re arguing in bad faith.

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      “I’m going to only eat some faces.” Said the leopard.

      “You got my vote, surely my face is safe.”

      This absolutely LAMF.

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        “I’m going to only eat some faces.” Said the leopard.

        That is literally not the premise of the original meme. The whole point is that ‘only some faces’ is assumed by the voter, while that ‘selectiveness’ is never explicitly stated by the party/candidate. It’s not the “Leopards Eating Only Some Faces” party, for a reason. You’re just trying to make your square peg fit in a clearly-round hole.

        Trump never campaigned on/promised prohibiting legal immigration. Again, LAMF is about the politician/party doing exactly what you wanted them to do (in this case, ‘deport illegals’), but assuming, without evidence, that it would only happen to others and not you. This would only be LAMF if his wife was an illegal immigrant.

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          It is lamf. He absolutely said many times he would “reform” immigration and deport “undesirables”. Sure, he said “illegals” most of the time, but to anyone with a fucking brain, we knew he meant the Family Guy meme.

          He tried to block immigration from entire countries years ago… Again, anyone with two braincells to rub together knew exactly what his lies meant.

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            The OP made it clear what specifically he voted in support of: the deportation of illegal immigrants. Deporting illegal immigrants is the ‘eating faces’ here.

            And here, what he is complaining about is not that illegal immigrants are being deported.

            So, not LAMF. This is very simple.

            Again, anyone with two braincells to rub together knew exactly what his lies meant.

            Calling them “his lies” is an unwitting admission that it’s not LAMF, lol! The whole point of LAMF is that the Leopards Eating Faces Party did NOT lie, they did exactly what they promised to do!

            You just don’t get it, that’s crystal clear.

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              So yet again, you haven’t been paying attention, and you have one or zero braincells.

              Even if he literally meant he would only deport people who entered illegally (and he doesn’t), all he’d have to do is change the laws… which he is also doing.

              So you’re wrong twice over on the same topic, and obstinate to hold such brainless opinions. For your own sake, I hope you’re getting paid to be so stupid.

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      anyone with a brain knew this was coming, stop listening to what republicans say

      at this point it’s LAMF for lack of ability to discern object permanence

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        anyone with a brain knew this was coming

        Prognostication has nothing to do with LAMF, this isn’t relevant.

        at this point it’s LAMF for lack of ability to discern object permanence

        No. You just want an excuse to ignore the theme. If everything counts as LAMF, nothing does, and the whole concept is meaningless.

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          this doesn’t take a seer, it’s basic pattern recognition

          and the literal roots of LAMF has been, among other things, republican voters voting against their best interests because of republican politician lies

          what an odd thing to gatekeep lol

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            this doesn’t take a seer, it’s basic pattern recognition

            But LAMF has nothing to do with predicting slippery slopes. It has everything to do with the specific thing being promised, not with things that happen later.

            and the literal roots of LAMF has been, among other things, republican voters voting against their best interests because of republican politician lies

            Literally false. The root of LAMF is voting for a party that promises to “eat faces”, under the unjustified assumption that only your enemies’ faces would be eaten, and then suffering because the party did exactly what they promised to do, and because said assumption was wrong, and never ‘part of the deal’ at all.

            what an odd thing to gatekeep lol

            Okay, so you don’t know what that word means, either. “Gatekeeping” is when you arbitrarily limit something, beyond its actual, defined limitations. It’d be gatekeeping to prevent women from entering a chess tournament, but it’s not gatekeeping to prevent men from joining a women’s chess tournament, because that tournament was conceived (pardon the pun) from the start as being women only.

            LAMF is clearly defined, you’re just trying to dilute it into meaninglessness by pretending ‘anything bad that happens to someone after the person they voted for wins’ counts as LAMF. It doesn’t.

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      Trump and the GOP have repeatedly decried and called to limit ALL immigration from third world countries. This guy 100% knew and wanted that to happen. He just thought it would only affect NEW immigrants, not his wife.

      The admin has been arresting and deporting legal immigrants and citizens since they came into power. If this guy had given half a shit about that happening, he would’ve already been banned from r/Trump.

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      Half the country was telling him that trump is racist and xenophobic, and he voted assuming that wouldn’t affect him.

      Turns out it did.

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      I think the point is that the orange monkey is doing bad thing when he advertized good thing and every monkey knew that would happen besides stupid monkey that voted for orange monkey.

      And now all things are bananas.

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      nope, this is exactly that. the leopards eating faces party usually singles out a demographic’s faces and other people vote for it assuming their own faces would be safe. it’s textbook.