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  • Bonehead@kbin.socialtomemes@lemmy.worldnuanceposting
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    6 months ago

    This post is far from being the first relating to the experience of sexual abuse

    Yeah, and? So what if it’s not the first one. There’s no limit on the number of posts about sexual assault that women are allowed to create.

    This post is not that. It’s a ragebait utilizing an attack

    No, it’s women sharing stories about why they choose the bear. You call it ragebait simply because you put yourself in the group that isn’t being picked by women.

    In those circumstances, calling someone to listen and ignoring them telling you they see an attack in the way this is shaped is hypocritical at best.

    Yes, it is, which is why I don’t understand why you keep doing it. This is not an attack against you. You’ve been told that several times now.

    As a wider point, I also say that we should listen not only to women (but to them too), but also to men,

    Fine. Great. Let’s listen to men. But a post about how women are choosing the bear and why is not the place to insist that we must listen to men.

    If your priority is prevention rather than pure shows of hostility, you better be a listener for both, regardless of the direction of abuse.

    Right. Which is why you should stop talking about being attacked and just listen.



  • You are not being oppressed just because you’re a man.

    We just had to listen to black people saying what to do all along.

    You’re so very very close, but you just don’t want to take that last step. So let’s carry you the rest of the way.

    We just had to listen to women saying what to do all along.

    You’re in a post filled with women sharing their SA stories and explanating why they choose the bear. Instead of crying that you’re being attacked, why not try listening to them. Not suggest solutions, not tell that they are wrong for choosing the bear, not explaining how dangerous bears actually are, not taking things personally because these stories are not about you or what you would do. Just listen, and at least try to empathize. That’s all. If you want to make a post to vent about how you’re supposedly oppressed, go right ahead. But this post is not about you.


  • Bonehead@kbin.socialtomemes@lemmy.worldnuanceposting
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    6 months ago

    Black people have been enslaved and then treated like shit by racists for centuries. That’s why they are associated with criminal activity, not because they actually commit more crimes compared to everyone else. It’s not the same as the vast difference of men committing violent sexual assaults on women as opposed to women committing violent sexual assaults on men. The fact that you’re trying to equate them just shows you’re a racist as well.

    Besides, here you agree with black people it’s not just “people venting”, it is an attack.

    a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

    You said that, not me.

    Again, no one is attacking men. A bunch of women were asked on camera by a man, without warning, and they gave an off the cuff honest answer. You can’t get upset with all women just because some made a choice you don’t agree with. Especially not when that choice has nothing do with you, because they don’t even know you exist. Seriously, get over yourself. It’s not about you…



  • This is essentially the problem with forums that grow faster than mods can keep up. Everything is fine until something like this comes along. When the brigades come out, trying to maintain order and read every comment for content becomes impossible. Unfortunately all we can do is hold each other accountable. Those that can take the abuse stand their ground for others that can’t. And when the dust settles, hopefully someone will have learned something. Even if that something is just reinforcing their choice. It’s all part of maturing, both for the site and for the people. Just don’t let it get you down. This site is not representative of the general population. Neither is Reddit. There are more people in this world that empathize with you than there are on this site.


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    6 months ago

    Why should I not compare?

    Because there is no difference between a white man and black man. On average, they are physically similar. But there is a massive physical difference between men and women. And before you interject with “ackshually, women can rape men too.” No one is disputing that. But how it is done and how often it happens is vastly different. Violent rape is a legitimate concern for every single woman, whether you want to accept it or not.

    Purposefully putting myself to what group?

    a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

    I literally pointed out what group I was referring to.

    You claim that you’re willing to listen, but you insist that women listen to you and accept your solutions without question. You claim you’re being attacked, when women are asked the question on camera without directing it at any specific person. You claim women are wrong to feel that way, without ever asking why they feel that way and what experiences lead to that decision. You claim you’re standing up for yourself, against women that would choose to be alone with a bear rather than a random unknown man.

    No one wants your solutions. No one asked for your solutions. No one is attacking you, because no one even knows who you are. No woman is wrong for feeling anything. And no woman should be forced to choose any man are not comfortable with, even if you’re a “nice guy”. It’s not about you…


  • would you rather be alone in a forest with a bear or a black person”

    Stop comparing yourself to black men. This isn’t about race.

    And that’s what men in the feminist conversations normally do - listen and care and respect. I am no exception.

    Yeah, except…

    If women expect men to listen, could they please listen for once?

    You don’t want to listen. You’re just waiting for your turn to talk.

    a comparison of men to dangerous animals, irrespective of any nuance, which is a form of attack on a social group.

    Again, you are purposely putting yourself in that group and getting offended by it. You are not being oppressed just because someone who doesn’t even know you exist would rather not be alone with you.

    And that’s where we have to interject.

    Which is why women are choosing the bear. Unfortunately you don’t seem to get that. You don’t have to interject, because it’s not about you.