It was done for parts of a Fray song in scrubs I believe and there are other examples I’m sure. Given it isn’t a requirement and we’ve both acknowledged isn’t done I’m not going to bother fetching a “source”.

Uhh… you don’t, precedence means that it sets the bar for all others, if nothing closed captions songs… how can that be precedence for it?

That isn’t quite what legal precedence is but close enough, I’ll leave you to research that in your own time. I mentioned requiring CC for TV legally as the precedence for requiring songs or music be “captioned” or have lyrics provided. I don’t understand how you aren’t following this. Hence my assumption of you tripping over yourself to look for an argument.

It’s funny, I didn’t go through your post history, since it isn’t relevant to the conversation at hand

Given I didn’t enter a relatively neutral toned thread with petulant, personal insults; I’m not surprised. You did, so I got curious. Generally when people enter a discussion like that you draw conclusions about them as a poster. I also find these types also very much don’t like people looking post histories. A complete coincidence I’m sure.

is, is only detrimental to any ACTUAL conversations happening. Common troll tactic, again, fucking yeesh lol

Actually hilarious given how you entered this discussion and your history full of hurling insults at people over nothing or a perceived moral high ground. Get a better hobby or change your life so you don’t feel the need to try, poorly, putting people down online.

Songs are captioned in TV though and I see them include lyrics (when no characters are speaking) or a song title. As the other poster mentioned though it is exemption to current law. Which is beside the point. I’ve also never claimed music was captioned. That is the point of this discussion currently. Try to keep up. Also no need for caps mate, take a deep breath.

Either you don’t understand what the word precedence means or (more likely) you’re deliberately missing the point so you can do what your post history is full of. Which start arguments with people and try your level best to demean them. There has been 0 reason for your tone or behaviour during joining this discussion.

Seriously, the way you speak to people is gross. If your idea of recreation is having a go at people online then it pretty apparent that you’re probably not doing too well with life.

Jeeez shot your own fucking foot with this silly pout didn’t you…?

Honestly, this caught me so off guard it made me laugh. Not even the guy I was disagreeing with came at like that?? The point was caption/transcription/lyrics are essentially synonymous, all are transcribing some other medium to text for the point of being read. So my point that there is precedent (CC on television being required legally) still stands.

It does shit me that older programs they could/can just put the treble clef symbol for music as you mentioned though.

one of the TV exemptions is programs that are mostly musical.

Even being hearing impaired, I gotta be honest, the irony is kinda funny. Glad to hear it! I was concerned that people in this thread advocating for it would seem like they’re coming from a place of entitlement so I hoped bringing the caption side of it would highlight otherwise. I agree! Hopefully they do at some point but slow progress for stuff like that.

There is no legal precedent requiring these services.

There is legal precedent for requiring captioning where I’m from and probably in the US as well. Practically every form of broadcasted video (and at least here, it is required of websites with video) has a legal requirement to provide captions. I don’t see how it would be difficult to apply that to music.

It being available on the free tier has almost no relevance to Spotify being a profit making entity that has to comply with the law. I’d be surprised if they don’t get in trouble for it legally. As pointed out elsewhere it’s paywalling an accessibility feature. Which seems like a great way to draw enough eyeballs to your bullshit and get legislation changes; assuming it doesn’t already violate it.

Excuse me, don’t you mean they bitched about cost before the roll out, stopped the rollout, then promised a cheaper solution (MTM as you mention) that retained old shitty infrastructure and then it still cost $11 billion more than the initial FTTP proposal due to cost blowouts. All in the name of partisan politics.

I agree, I trust LNP and by extension Dutton as much as that party deserves with proposals like this, fuck all. They didn’t even have any figures for the project cost when he proposed it.

As someone who grew up in the bush with shit internet until their late teens I’ll probably never get over the nbn fuckup.

Same here, a complete coincidence I’m sure.

Man in who lives in active war zone because he refused to evacuate thinks large scale death and destruction is the solution.

Typical, I have relatives like this. Old, washed up blokes with fuck all going on in their lives but get angry at things and people. Too old to be sent off to die in wars so of course they advocate for it at the smallest perceived slight (and never signed up when they could have either). Too arrogant for introspection or the barest amount of empathy.

There are royal prisons? Even with the head of state I would have thought they would drop the “her majesty’s” from stuff like jail/prison.

Well support might not be an option but have you considered/tried something like xpadder? I had to use it to map keyboard buttons to a controller for gameboy emulators a couple years ago. Might do the trick.

I don’t buy games that run Kernel level software either generally but the two issues are tangentially related. This seems like a problem yesteryears algorithms plus monitoring staff could have solved. The problem is the latter cost money and doesn’t generate profit. LLM/ML makes this feasible again I suspect.

I’ll take your word for it since I’m using as a shortened form of psychopathic in the literal sense, which is wrong anyway since I mean sociopath.

It is a commonly known issue that women avoid going on comms in games. For the simple fact that an incredible high percent of the time, doing so means being dog piled by the rest of the server. Sure plenty still do it anyway, but sometimes shockingly enough, some people want to play games to relax.

Anecdotally it feels like they’re more present in games than ever but if only a small percent participate in the hobby and that small percent constantly deals with this type of behaviour, do you think that’s going to encourage more to join?

People taking out their shitty days or personalities on others in gaming has been an issue overdue for addressing for a minute now.

“People are too sensitive today” types are deliberately missing the point. Online is pretty much the only place where you can get away with spouting slurs or psycho shit. You wouldn’t do it in public or get away with most of it in public.

More to the point it’s just tiring having these types come into a lobby. They generally don’t (or can’t) play properly or fuck around until someone calls them out. They then start on that person or spamming the N word.

More often than not it feels like they try to frame it as “oh ho, people can’t handle my casual use of slurs, snowflakes”. When more likely is if you’re talking and behaving like that generally it means you’re obnoxious and disruptive to the game.

Please stop Chris. I’ve already taken out another mortgage and the bank won’t stop calling me. The divorce your game brought on was cheaper by several orders of magnitude. Approve refund pls

I was a kickstarter for this way back in the day. I used to not feel bad about the delay until I realised I bought it a few years after high school. More than once I had completely forgotten about this game and that I had paid for it. Which obviously pretty drastically changed my view on it and the devs, especially after learning a bit more about Chris.

That was years ago and before I learned about shit like the store page for ship pledges that’s hidden and only unlocks when you spend ridiculous amount on ship pledges. The $10,000 ship pre orders…

I’ve gone full circle, now I just want the game to succeed so I can never hear about it again.

In my defence the mobile app for me compresses the image. Legit didn’t even see Wallace or Butch. Zoomers at work reference Pulp fiction all the time, have faith.

Is this memes referencing these types of gimps? Because yes I am afraid of advance warfare gimps.

The reason I ask is it’s common Russian disinformation to claim US or NATO violated this agreement; justifying the Russian federations invasion of Ukraine.

Care to elaborate? Who is violating the Budapest accords memorandum in your view?