Couldn’t agree more, this shit is toxic as fuck. Really don’t get how they’re saying the mod is abusive, that mod was probably too nice.

You sound like an alt of @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz. Just further reinforces my opinion that you deserve it that much more.

YDI, your behavior is incredibly hostile and uncalled for. Also WTF? Claiming people can’t play the girl characters and have long hair while still being cis? What the hell, that sounds so dumb and outdated, people can like whatever the fuck they want without it having a deeper meaning. Who the Fuck do you think you are to try and argue otherwise?

Also it’s a two day ban, take the mod’s advice and cool your head, instead of starting more shit.

I think their biggest problem, the reason they don’t understand, is that they believe a conspiracy theory about the government trying to hurt people with fluoride. Despite the evidence that shows how high the unsafe levels for fluoride are, and that they are nowhere near that, as well as the fact that its proven to be safe and beneficial at lower levels. They believe that it is being forced upon them by having it in tap water, which it absolutely is not, as highlighted by the fact that I know people who haven’t gotten enough either from drinking bottled or distilled water.

I really don’t see the logic of pushing back against something like this when it doesn’t hurt you and the small benefits will benefit you greatly years later, as well as the fact that it’s done for you at no extra cost, which you can’t say for any of the alternatives. Really they’re complaining about getting something beneficial essentially for free without having to pay extra or do work for it.

It would be much better if more servers actively defederated or limited their server, that way the things they say and do would have less effect on the other servers that aren’t affiliated with them.

You should peruse their modlog a bit and see how many people are banned for it, instead of just taking their word for it. That’s the benefit of Lemmy or other platforms, modlog is public.

I probably would’ve signed up at lemmy.ml if they hadn’t closed registrations in the Reddit migration, very glad I didn’t though from what has happened there. I signed up to Lemmy.world instead, and even though it is problematic in many ways at least the Admins there aren’t trigger happy power tripping bastards, trying to promote their pro-russia tankie shit.

Remember in the early days of the Fediverse when people said it was all about “freeze peach”? Yeah that was not good. Not only is it wrong and would disappoint and piss off a lot of people when they learn about defederation and that you can still get banned, but it also attracts a lot of extremely rotten people to the platform. Remember exploding-heads? Yeah that was a side effect of that lie to try and promote the Fediverse.

Oh for sure. The name bot or spam defense is really a lie or doublespeak, their real purpose is anti-competition by automatically banning people who post in different subreddits. Combating spam isn’t their real purpose (they just say that because you can’t openly violate moderator CoC, you can only do it if you say you aren’t doing it), it’s making people afraid to visit competing subreddits or punish people for using subreddits the mods of the current subreddit hold a grudge against.

Here’s a good tip, block all moderation bots on Reddit. That stops them from doing actions they aren’t entitled to as moderators like DMing you or checking post history outside of their subreddits.

The most notorious is u/BotDefense

u/SafestBot and u/SaferBot are other commonly used ones.

Some other ones I’ve come across are:

• u/pexl-SENSE
• u/bot-swatter
• u/SpamBustr
• u/SpambotSwatter
• u/banhammerapp
• u/hive-protect
• u/evasion-guard

These are what I would call ban-by-association bots and I recommend blocking all these and any others you come across as it’ll decrease the amount of erroneous bans like this you receive on Reddit. There’s no easy way to identify them reliability so look through the moderators list before posting on any given sub and block ones that seem suspicious.

Also yes I’m aware this will help spammers and trolls and I don’t care, Reddit needs to die and people need to move on, spam helps loosen network effect by making it unbearable for normies, and even more unbearable for power users (the people who post the content that gets consumed). This information is way more valuable for users to counter abusive mod practices (like banning by association automatically) than it is harmful via the spam it creates as a byproduct.

Also need an option to report to only admins, since mods which are abusive can just dismiss every report. Possibly even abuse the reporter. It happened to me earlier when someone created a community to harass me and pinged me on every post.

Being able to bypass mods is crucial in situations like that.

Good idea. People are always so eager to stick up for servers with that dumb excuse turning it against them is only fitting. It’s such a hypocritical excuse as well because under that logic this community is invalid.

I don’t think what Beehaw did quite gets there, but just because it’s on character for them doesn’t mean it’s good or normal. It’s still extreme and they should best be avoided because of it.

Drag doesn’t want to. Drag never wanted to. The point was always to put what you wanted to say in the modlog. If it weren’t for the modlog’s visibility, the ban would mean nothing, because drag doesn’t want to use those communities. You knew drag wasn’t a user of those communities, you knew all this.

Nope but believe what you wanted to believe. Modlog reasons are good moderator etiquette and you would complain to me if I wrote anything else including nothing at all, because the problem was never that I wrote anything, it’s that I hurt your pride and instilled a new fear that you could become banned from places without posting or commenting in them.

Don’t misrepresent what was said. If you’re going to use drag’s comments as evidence, use them. The actual text drag wrote. The text which indicates that drag was not advocating suicide. No lies, please.

Nice try, but suggesting suicide when you know that people are suicidal is the same as encouraging them. Feel free to disagree but that’s not just my opinion, it’s well agreed upon consensus that you don’t give people who may be thinking of killing themselves ideas on the method.

It’s also well known that you do not ever encourage people to murder others, this is what would be considered illegal or dangerous speech because you encouraged others to cause real world harm. Saying you didn’t mean it afterwards doesn’t negate it. Maybe some might buy it but I’m not and the mods clearly aren’t.

Go try and post to those communities or vote in them, do you think that bans for communities you don’t participate in mean nothing. Of course they don’t. They deny you access to them. Their description is meant to highlight the reason they occurred, would you prefer future bans have an empty message? I don’t think that will change anything you’ll still harass and sealion me for you being banned from all future use of a community, and not being able to prevent it.

Now if you are worried about what people think of you based on your modlog incursions you should be worried about the real issues, like you saying that trans people should buy a gun and take out a red hat before doing themselves. That’s an utterly atrocious and disgusting thing to say in a trans friendly community, and since it came from you directly, it’s way worse than anything I or anyone else could’ve put in the ban reason.

The feeling is very much mutual dragonfucker. I don’t comment on these posts because I want to be your friend or tell you something. I do it because it is public and provides context and information for others, whether you respond or not doesn’t make much of a difference to me. Your responses do provide more clarity though that none of this behavior from you is at all good faith.

Buddy, you harassed the mod of that community, you misgendered his daughter and he brought receipts in the last thread you made to show what you did. In addition you’ve been referring to other people using your own drag pronoun, (probably as a substitute for you/your/you’re) which for people who do not use your pronoun is indeed misgendering.

Honestly I know the ethics of preemptive bans are questionable at best but with the past behavior you’ve exhibited I can confidently say it was not for nothing. Not by a long shot. I’d say you should get used to being banned from places if you continue to have interactions like the ones you’ve had with @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world with other people.

In short YDI, You Deserve It, big time.

Despite people obviously having hostility toward you for holding this sentiment I agree with you. Beehaw has some very extreme views, and while I admire them for their spirit of moderating against hate speech they do take things way too far. One example is deciding to defederate Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works simply to stick it to them, a move which ended up not really working in their favor since they just lost out in those communities, and many of their users (who didn’t feel the same extreme way they do) just left.
And they even talk about the Fediverse being non-viable when they went into voluntary exile by their own choice.

So honestly I would generally recommend people stay away from Beehaw, it’s just not worth giving them the attention, and one can already find many alternatives to the communities they have there on other instances. Which I can guarantee will be less extreme and childish over matters such as these.

I read through the logs and your post/comment history. You sound like at best an edge-lord, and at worst an alt-right troll. This behavior is generally not taken well on most social media platforms, and Community run Fediverse platforms, even more so.

Fact is you can have political opinions, but you also need to understand and be aware of the facts, and the fact is that Donald Trump is a fascist and has on more than one occasion advocated for fascist policies, including extremely hostile and discriminatory policies towards transgender people. This is a fact, it doesn’t care about your feelings, or whether you think that these policies are acceptable, they are still happening and they are hurting people. This is why people are pushing back, and also why you are getting banned or not taken seriously, and you do deserve it, because regardless of what you or anyone else thinks, people are and will get hurt from it.

Honestly you should expect this type of thing to happen more often on Lemmy and fediverse platforms since individually or community run platforms will not tolerate the same type of content a corporate platform will, since their moderation focuses on community health, not ad-friendliness, and one of those things is protecting minority members.

I know people who’ve spent most of their lives drinking bottled water without fluoride and using fluoride free toothpaste who would probably disagree with you on that, as it has been both scientifically and anecdotally in their cases been proven to be beneficial to dental health. The affects of not having it may not be detrimental but it does result in weaker teeth more prone to damage and decay.

That doesn’t mean your teeth will rot out of your head if you don’t get enough of it, but it does mean that early stages of decay which might be reversed by re-mineralization provided in part by healthy levels of fluoride will likely not be reversed, and may instead progress. Which isn’t ideal.

I can agree with this, people bellyaching about being censored for hate speech, trolling, or just being evil people isn’t helpful, if anything it devalues the community since people will just see that and assume that it’s just a complaining community, not a place to share legitimate and objective mod abuse. It’s bad enough that Lemmy’s culture has a very strong bias devaluing the judgement and opinion of individual users, it would honestly be preferable not to make that worse than it already is.

The problem is being able to migrate existing instances to those, not just having other software available. Current instances can’t easily move over at the drop of a hat, for many it would straight up kill them to have to start from scratch. And as far as I’m aware Lemmy Database isn’t compatible with either so they’d have to start from scratch on the new software.