Hey look you were confronted with evidence

Lol, where?

The mod logs of some user you don’t like don’t prove anything lmfao

Cope harder.

Any evidence to back your wild claims, or…?

So that’s a no then.

Shocking 😂

Lmfao, wow, the Musk defence, impressive… 😂

Any evidence to back your wild claims, or…?

As soon as I read about this I thought it was a terrible idea, but other than the instance they chose, and the fact that they didn’t bother consulting the community (which are bad in their own right) I didn’t really have enough information, but since their mod team have started responding to people, it has become clear that it is not a community I want to participate in.

Beyond minimising and dismissing the legitimate concerns people have, and being very territorial over a community they had seemingly often left for someone else to mod for them, reading through the comments on one of the announcement posts, I found an example of the kind of “over modding” they disagreed with, and I recognised it as a comment that was removed from a post I had made. At the time I was very glad it, and several like it were removed, and was quite surprised a few days later to see them restored, and was really confused and disappointed. I took it as an orange, almost red flag, which along with a previous unrelated orange/red flag made me take a slight step back from the community.

Now reading Ada’s side of the story, it all makes a lot more sense - my guess is she had originally removed the comments (she had come on to the post to say she was intervening), and the 196 team then swept through and restored a whole chunk of them back when they finally got around to modding themselves.

I’m almost glad this happened, because now I know who restored those comments, and whose modding to be wary of.

Bottom line - these are not the mods for me, and since an alternative has already been opened on blahaj, this is a non issue, screw 'em. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

E: They have now made a non-apology post, in which they confirm my suspicion/conclusion that it was in fact the comments removed from the post I had made (because Ada prioritised marginalised people’s voices and needs, over those of the self-proclaimed “allies” who came to tell us what bad marginalised people we are for “alienating” them by also prioritising ourselves and our needs) that caused this move.

Classy.

This

We understand that a lot of respect and trust was lost, and we expect it’ll take a lot of work and a lot of time before we can earn it back, but we would be grateful if y’all gave us that chance.

and

Having another team take over splits the community. The more fragmentation there is, the less longevity and volume of community each skew will have.

Did give me a good laugh though. I’d say in case they hadn’t noticed, the community has already moved on, but I suspect that it is precisely because the community has moved on that they even bothered to make that post and pretend like they’ve learned something from this.

I think a lot of people are just not aware enough to realize how easy it is for extremism to fester in a society where people are economically (and morally) depressed

They’re “not aware enough” because the education systems, as well as the media, which are controlled and or owned by the people looking to manipulate them, and deliberately ensures that from infancy the population is only given a white washed version of history that serves those in power, so that exactly this can happen.

Which only reinforces OP.

The idea that any of this is accidental, or worse, is some inevitable part of “human nature” is just one more way in which those in power manipulate you in to accepting it as reality.

Tankies gonna tank ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lol, I got a similar removal and ban (rule 1, 2*) the other day for replying to someone who mentioned credit ratings as a counterpoint to the attempts to discredit the existence of “social credits” (or whatever actual system exists in China, and it does exist, to keep tabs on their population):

This right here.

And the point is that an average American barely knows how those work, or exactly what information the government and or private financial and other companies collect about them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply), in the same way the average Chinese person barely knows just how much surveillance their government is doing on them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply).

This post is such tankie bullshit.

Pretending like only one government does (internal and external) propaganda, or only one government is oppressing and lying to its own people (not to mention people in other countries), or that the average person in any country know, or is willing to admit to themselves, never mind others, and especially never mind people from a country you’ve been propagandised against from birth, the flaws of their own government is not only laughable, and hypocritical, but also massively counterproductive.

*as you can see, the ban is really for calling OP “tankie bullshit” and *gasp* pointing out that China is bad in the same ways America is bad. Such fragile egos lmfao