I get reliably more accurate search results with Brave Search tbh. It has a neat little AI summariser tool you can disable, an option to pay $3 a month to go ad-free, it’s privacy-centric, clean design, browser-agnostic. Also, it uses its own indexer/web crawler, it doesn’t just piggyback on Bing like DuckDuckGo does.

The only time I end up using Google is if I’m looking into a very recent event, like a thing happening in the world that took place in the last 12-24 hours or so. Google seems to index news articles quicker than Brave.

Thanks, I hate it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Oh god. I knew it would be this sort of low-IQ shit when I saw your @lemmy.ml address.

they did a investigation which discovered findings related to 19 people, one of whom was dismissed and the other 9 were deemed insufficient. it doesn’t mean they only investigated 19 people and found 9, it means out of all the allegations only 19 could even be reasonably investigated, and they decided to terminate 9 people.

They investigated 19 people and found 12 of them were so highly plausibly involved in the October 7th Holocaust, even by the UN’s ridiculous standards which always try to absolve themselves, that they have already fired them. That’s it. They’re already fired by the UN because of the evidence they uncovered. They’ve already been fired for it.

and by Zionist i meant a supporter of state of Israel (which you seem highly engaged in covering for them) regardless of ideology and politics

OK, so the idea here appears to be that Israel is unique among all the nations of the world in that it only has a right to exist insofar as one can individually and subjectively support their government. Have I misread this?

this is the most common use of the word by self identified (most of whom are evangelical christians and are zionists for very anti-semetic reasons) and the general public

This isn’t true, you just watched it on a YouTube video.

Here’s an example: I’m a Zionist because I believe the Jewish people have a right to national self-determination in their ethnic and religious homeland.

Anti-Zionists therefore presumably believe that the Jews have no such right, and therefore their state – uniquely among all the states on the planet, from the United States to Australia – must be destroyed and abolished.

Which bit of that is ‘incorrect’ in your view, assuming you’re willing/able to activate some element of your prefrontal cortex in responding?

stop baiting people into the gotcha “anti-semetic” debate bullshit you disingenuous fuck.

I haven’t baited anything. I wanted to know what you meant when you labelled me as a “Zionist”, in your own word(s).

Nothing you’ve said has convinced me that you wouldn’t have been piling up ‘Pro-Zionist’ books on the bonfires of Berlin in 1939.

What do you think ‘Zionist’ means?

Per the article, they didn’t investigate all 350, the UN only investigated 19. Not really interested in that argument, though.

What do you mean when you say ‘Zionist’ about me? Specifically, what do you mean by that word?

Let him cook

OK

what do you mean by that?

I mean how the occupation can end. It’s not obvious how that can happen, even though it obviously should. Go on Google Images, then search ‘topography of Israel and the West Bank’. If a nascent civilian government of Palestine falls to Hamas or similar forces then they’d be overlooking Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. They’d have a throughline to Iran via Syria-Lebanon. That’s not a risk Israel can take.

Hamas has little to no influence there

This simply isn’t correct. Hamas operates in much of the West Bank, as do allied groups like the Jenin Brigades and Lion’s Den in Nablus. They’re also enormously popular among West Bank Palestinians.

it is governed by a civilian government that was democratically elected

So democratic that the current President Abbas is currently serving the 19th year of his 4-year term.

In fact, they’ve been trying to hold new elections, something that Israel has been blocking for years now

This is misleading at best. They’re not trying to hold new elections, because every single opinion poll for about 15 years now show that Fatah would lose badly and certainly Hamas would become the new government of the West Bank, which would finally shatter the possibility of there ever being a Palestinian state. That doesn’t serve Fatah or Israel. Israel therefore keeps Fatah on life-support as the least-bad option.

There is little to no violence coming from the West Bank.

Because it’s been suppressed by Fatah in co-operation with Israeli security services who’ve been operating in the West Bank before and after October 7th.

By the way, right at this moment thousands of Palestinians in the West Bank are out marching in support of Hamas and against the killing of Ismail Hainyeh: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/dismay-in-gaza-and-rare-open-support-for-hamas-in-west-bank-after-haniyeh-killing/

Any outcome where Hamas was permitted to live after October 7th or to govern Gaza was never going to be acceptable, and Hamas was unlikely to ever concede this.

Anything less than the end of Hamas would have been a terrible outcome for all sides. They’d regroup, rearm, and in a few years’ time they’d attack again, more civilians would die, and people would start clutching their pearls and warning about ‘escalation’. And in the meantime, the Palestinians in Gaza would have had to endure their brutal rule.

Once Hamas has been sufficiently degraded, there’ll be some sort of regional coalition to rebuild Gaza with Saudi, Emirati and Kuwaiti involvement and US security guarantees, a deradicalisation process for the Palestinians there, and the construction of a civil bureaucracy. The international community will be pouring in financial assistance, except that this time it won’t be used to build hundreds of miles of terror dungeons.

The West Bank is a tougher nut to crack. But Israel will have to deal with the Hezbollah Jihadis first.