• Nougat@fedia.io
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    9 months ago

    If you’re having trouble understanding what this map means, it means that the suicide rate for men is higher than for women everywhere, notably 5 to 6 times higher in Eastern Europe and Russia, and 8 times higher in a couple of Central American countries and West Africa.

    I wonder what makes men the world over decide that suicide is the best option.

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      9 months ago

      I would imagine toxic masculinity.

      Men are encouraged to be stoic and not express their emotions.

      Most men don’t have a single friend they can talk openly about their emotions with.

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        9 months ago

        They are also told their entire lives that everyone relies on them and then are publicly shamed if they fail. Plus being first in line for any violent conflict, where they might lose the few friends they have and no outlets since showing any weakness is punished.

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        9 months ago

        Not just that. In 90% of suicide attempt, the decision was made within an hour before the attempt. Impulsivity is a component and men are more impulsive. We also see that people with ADHD are more likely to attempt suicide too. Not only that, women who take the pill are 2x more likely to attempt suicide and 3x more likely to succeed. This is because estrogens stimulate the frontal lobe and are needed for emotional stability and cognitive control. Which is also why girls outperform boys on average in academic settings as well.

        This means the difference isn’t just a social issue. Suicide rates have been increasing for both men and women in the western world the past 20 years. Thankfilly, that doesn’t mean we can’t improve it.

        But we can’t expect it to ever be 50/50. Unless ofcourse we make women’s lives worse. But that’s not solving men’s problems.

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      9 months ago

      I wonder what makes men the world over decide that suicide is the best option.

      Because if you don’t have a partner and high paying job, you aren’t just worthless, you are a burden.

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        9 months ago

        I’m going to need proof

        It just seems like some of y’all want a self fulfilling prophecy.

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          I mean to an extent, it is a self fulfilling prophecy. Whether or not it’s the case, it’s often felt my men that they have to be the breadwinner, or at least the point of strength. They can have people around them that tell them otherwise, but if they don’t feel like they measure up then that’s what it will be.

          People don’t often just commit suicide because they’re like “I guess this is how the math works out”, they felt, or were told, or told themselves, that things can only be better if they’re gone. In every case, they won’t be, but that’s where their mental journey led them

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      9 months ago

      We are not as good at voicing our issues with a committed support network and we are way better at following through on suicidal ideation.

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      9 months ago

      Men are overly hormonal. Domestic abuse, war, homicide… They should take a more logical stance instead of being a slave to their feelings.

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        9 months ago

        What a great specimen of Finnish self-aware sarcasm.

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          Lol it isn’t sarcasm. If you would like to test my hypothesis, next time you see a man raging, tell him he is being overly hormonal. 99% chance he will not calm down and start behaving logically XD

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            9 months ago

            Have you just never met a woman before?

            When did you lose your first tooth?

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              Please, quit being so emotional.

              You just proved my point. Instead of evaluating the truth of my statement, you turned to aggressive ad-hominem.

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                  9 months ago

                  Don’t know what aggression means?

                  Lol I’m getting all the boys today… arriba!

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                9 months ago

                I asked you two questions.

                The fact that you tried to debatelord away from a simple question like “When did you lose your first tooth?” means that you are almost certainly AI.

                I’m reporting your account and blocking you.

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      I wonder if evolution isn’t at play. Females killing themselves off is an awful reproductive strategy. Males doing the same is not such a big deal.

      If I’m not clear: A woman takes about a year from attempting to get pregnant to gestation to birth to recovery. I could impregnate hundreds of women in a year. And so could any other man. We’re simply not as valuable.

      And yes, men have plenty of value outside sperm donation, I was trying to shine a harsh light.

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      9 months ago

      I wonder what makes men the world over decide that suicide is the best option.

      No one cares, and life is cruel and cold. The end.