• Mchugho@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Why are young people so offended by nudity? Get over yourselves and stop pushing to censor creativity. This is the generation that thinks Marvel represents high class cinema so I suppose I shouldn’t take it too seriously.

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      11 months ago

      Iam not gen z and not offended by nudity, but mostly i find it doesn’t add to the story if the sex scenes are played out. If i want porn, i just watch porn.

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        11 months ago

        It’s not porn it’s a sex scene.

        “Show don’t tell” is the golden rule of film making. It’s way better to show relationships between people than allude to them. Of course sex scenes add to stories, sex is a normal and life changing part of people’s lives and that should be reflected in our arts and culture.

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          I work in the film business and have been on seta making the biggest movies in the world, even some of those Marvel super hero movies you mentioned. And Although I dont disagree at all those movies are really the lowest common denominator, film making for mainstream consumption is FAR less artistically expressive and driven than what most may realize. Indie films are generally far more creative during the writing and filming process and generally dive deeper into stories that absolutely merit sexual content. I dont think that’s what they are saying though. This is about mainstream media and just wanting something more creative than the same old shit time and time again in relation to sexual content. And I think that’s a fair perspective. There’s true art in film and then there’s the shit on TV and those two are nearly completely seperate.

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          11 months ago

          For sure they do, but in some series its nearly porn and doesn’t add to the story.

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            11 months ago

            Two characters having intimate relations nearly always adds to the story. Very often it’s a major plot point. I don’t know what you’re watching where two characters going at it doesn’t advance the plot in any way.

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              11 months ago

              I have seen the first season of the series the article shows. Which had more sex scenes than the plot could handle.

              Probably its just what they think the target group likes.

              And you are not getting my point. People having sex on tv is ok. Having 10+ Minute sex scenes is unnecessary and doesn’t add to the story.

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                I don’t think 10 minute sex scenes are super common though.

                But again even when they exist, of course it advances the story. Nothing changes dynamics between people like sex in reality.

                Why would media show every facet of life except sex? That’s a far weirder prospect to me.

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                    I just despise the way that people want to stifle creativity and place limits on what is and isn’t acceptable in media based on their own personal squeamishness and morals.

                    You might think ten minutes are too long. If you do it’s your right to turn it off and not watch without going on a moral rant about how it’s unnecessary.

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              Okay, but what exactly does it add once you’ve made your point that they’re banging? What additional point are you making that warrants not cutting to the next scene after that point has been established?

              Lots of film and show makers don’t ask these questions when they make their sex scenes so the result is boring filler.

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                11 months ago

                TV shows aren’t just streams of information to be imbibed by the viewer like the manual for your car.

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                  You’re still failing to answer the first question:

                  what exactly does it add once you’ve made your point that they’re banging?

                  Because…it’s not entertaining either. If I wanted to watch people bang, I’d just go find some porn.

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                    There is no point talking to you because you don’t realise different people find different values in different things. Some people would rather their TV reflected the reality of human relationships rather than being a sanitised mockery.

                    Thinking TV sex is anywhere close to pornographic in it’s current iteration is laughable

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      For years everyone questioned why literally everything is so overly sexualized. Every plot, every ad, every spare moment when sex is shoehorned into literally everything we see, watch and hear in media. Now, the young adults are sayin, “nah, fuck that” and I dont disagree with that response. I think it’s less them being offended as you’re making it out to be and more just wanting something different besides the status quo. Its unwise and unhelpful to shit on these kids at every turn. Previous generations said the same thing about your generation when you were that age.

      Edit: typo

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        I find it all to be weirdly puritanical, then and now. They are more offended by tits than violence which is mind boggling.

        Sex is a healthy, natural part of life. Violence is not, yet Gen Z choose to be more offended by the former.

        Do us a favour and stop watching R rated films if you can’t hack it.

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          No one is offended by it. Its just boring. I would prefer the movie to be 10 minutes shorter than have a 10 minutes sex scene in it.

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            11 months ago

            Of course people are offended by it. Have you seen this thread? It’s people who find the very idea of sex to be disgusting rather than a beautiful part of life.

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          It’s a natural part of life but so is pooping and I don’t want to watch anybody do that on screen either. Fade to black. Same with extreme violence. These things can be an important part of the story without being shown graphically.

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            Pooping doesn’t quite elicit the same emotions between characters as sex now does it? The fact that you’ve even compared the two is wild. Even then I have seen some fantastic pooping scenes in films (Trainspotting).

            How about letting directors treat film goers as adults?

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      11 months ago

      Watching other people drool over each other and exchange bodily fluids is just cringe.

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        11 months ago

        If you think that’s all that’s happening during sex scenes I feel a little bit sorry for you.

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        They aren’t though. People complain about the nudity in Oppenheimer as being gratuitous but it was a creative way to show how uncomfortable and vulnerable Robert was in that interrogation.

        I literally can’t think of another example of a sex scene in recent films because cinema is already becoming more childish and sanitised.