• Tiefling IRL@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      This is such a half brained response. Yes “actual” AI in the form of simulated neurons is pretty far off, but it’s fairly obvious when people say they AI they mean LLMs and other advanced forms of computing. There’s other forms of AI besides LLMs anyways, like image analyzers

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      In 2022 AI evolved into AGI and LLM into AI. Languages are not static as shown by old English. Get on with the times.

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        They didn’t so much “evolve” as AI scared the shit out of us at such a deep level we changed the definition of AI to remain in denial about the fact that it’s here.

        Since time immemorial, passing a Turing test was the standard. As soon as machines started passing Turing tests, we decided Turing tests weren’t such a good measure of AI.

        But I haven’t yet seen an alternative proposed. Instead of using criteria and tasks to define it, we’re just arbitrarily saying “It’s not AGI so it’s not real AI”.

        In my opinion, it’s more about denial than it is about logic.

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        Changes to language to sell products are not really the language adapting but being influenced and distorted

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            I think the modern pushback comes from people who get their understanding of technology from science fiction. SF has always (mis)used AI to mean sapient computers.

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          LLMs are a way of developing an AI. There’s lots of conspiracy theories in this world that are real it’s better to focus on them rather than make stuff up.

          There really is an amazing technological development going on and you’re dismissing it on irrelevant semantics

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      You’re using AI to mean AGI and LLMs to mean AI. That’s on you though, everyone else knows what we’re talking about.

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        Nobody has yet met this challenge:

        Anyone who claims LLMs aren’t AGI should present a text processing task an AGI could accomplish that an LLM cannot.

        Or if you disagree with my

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          Oops accidentally submitted. If someone disagrees with this as a fair challenge, let me know why.

          I’ve been presenting this challenge repeatedly and in my experience it leads very quickly to the fact that nobody — especially not the experts — has a precise definition of AGI

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          “Write an essay on the rise of ai and fact check it.”

          “Write a verifiable proof of the four colour problem”

          “If p=np write a python program demonstrating this, else give me a high-level explanation why it is not true.”

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      The term has been stolen and redefined . It’s pointless to be pedantic about it at this point.