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An Iranian teenager was sexually assaulted and killed by three men working for Iran’s security forces, a leaked document understood to have been written by those forces says.
It has let us map what happened to 16-year-old Nika Shakarami who vanished from an anti-regime protest in 2022.
Her body was found nine days later. The government claimed she killed herself.
We put the report’s allegations to Iran’s government and its Revolutionary Guards. They did not respond.
Marked “Highly Confidential”, the report summarises a hearing on Nika’s case held by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) - the security force that defends the country’s Islamic establishment. It includes what it says are the names of her killers and the senior commanders who tried to hide the truth.
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They have nukes too
Some humans really are monsters.
Most of which are men.
It may seem that way and perhaps it is accurate, but if women support bad men, are they any better? Lots of enablers of bad behaviour. I too “feel” it is mostly men though.
Don’t bother listening to Shou, clear man-hater who believes animals are all naturally afraid of men (not women) because of how they smell.
I read a number of their comments and they do raise a number of valid points, but perhaps have inaccurately pinpointed the issue as men and testosterone versus some people’s brain development/chemistry. They are not entirely wrong, just a little off the mark which is making their words easy to dismiss for most. There is an oz of truth here. I am replying with some of the facts and studies on the matter as clearly they are passionate about the subject and wish to learn.
When looking at crime rates. It’s definitely men. And I doubt many of them were enabled by women solely.
Violent crimes yes I would agree. It is mostly men around the world who are committing them. If all men decided to not commit violent acts all at once, including refusing to join the army or participate in war, the world would be a better place instantly. Maybe that is where things will go as we start to alter our DNA as unfortunately evolution is way too slow and many of us are still behaving like wee are tribes in the jungle.
In terms of enabling, there is some phycology here. Not saying all violent crimes committed by men were solely enabled by women but there is a weird dynamic going on. Here is one example but there are many many studies on this matter and the overall trend is violence is attractive for some. Hence the enabling. https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1164&context=jj_etds
I would caution broad stroke statements though aimed at men as the majority of men are not violent. It is a small percentage who cause most of the violence. When we look at their brains, we have noticed patterns in their formation and chemistry. Some of these exist in women to a much lesser degree as I recall reading in papers in the past. Perhaps it is these people we need to focus on helping as they are causing a lot of suffering for themselves and others.
That so called regime is a travesty. Hope the Iranian people can some day be free.
I wonder who caused that regime to come to power. Could it have been… The US? 😱
They won’t be able to topple the regime without outside assistance.
Unfortunately they’re brown, so they don’t get a blank check from the United States like Ukraine and Israel.
Brown people have to solve their own problems, or else it’s colonization.
No they’re left wing compared to their government so they won’t get us assistance. Who do you think helped overthrow the liberal government of Iran?
But also Iran is a nuclear power and unhinged
No they’re left wing compared to their government so they won’t get us assistance.
In something of a cultural paradox, Iran is worse on LGB rights but significantly better on T rights than its western peers. So stark is the contrast that cis-gay men and women are often under pressure to transition in an attempt to become more socially acceptable to social conservatives in power.
But also Iran is a nuclear power and unhinged
If you compare the Israeli response to October 7th with the Iranian response to Israeli’s bombing of their Syrian embassy or the US slaying of their General-turned-Ambassador Qasem Soleimani, I’d say they are some of the most hinged residents in the region.
They also haven’t successfully conducted a nuclear test to date. They have ballistic missiles with traditional munitions, and they have some hypersonic rockets that have outclassed western missile defense systems (as evidenced by the post-embassy retaliation into the Israeli desert). But their nuclear capacity isn’t even at North Korean tier, largely thanks to their lack of enrichable uranium.
If you compare blah blah
Please pull more BS out of thin air. The most hinged house in the neighborhood is Iran? Get real.
In something of a cultural paradox, Iran is worse on LGB rights but significantly better on T rights than its western peers. So stark is the contrast that cis-gay men and women are often under pressure to transition in an attempt to become more socially acceptable to social conservatives in power.
Lol, I wonder if any trans people have migrated there for refuge.
Nope, he has no idea what he’s talking about. See my previous comment.
Maybe from a different non-Western country, then? I bet it’s better to be trans there than Russia.
I had heard they have a totally different, more tolerant approach to trans issues, although I don’t know the specifics of how that looks in practice. I guess even a broken clock is right sometimes.
They do not have better trans rights than western countries.
Show your source, cause the one you linked says this;
Trans men and trans women are treated differently from each other in Iranian society. Trans men are more visible socially and are able to find acceptance in society more easily than trans women, who are often misgendered and put in the same category as gay men. Currently, Iran is the only country confirmed to execute gay people,
Compare that to Florida or the UK. They’re leagues ahead just by not being TERF freaks.
So have you ever met an Iranian trans person? I’ve actually had a few lovely conversations with one. Is it not the death penalty to be a straight trans person? Yes. That’s actually why this lady was in America, as a lesbian she had to flee after transitioning. Also as a woman she’s treated like shit and while officially the government allows straight trans people (which btw the history and theology that led to this is wild) if you don’t transition perfectly in no time at all you’re at serious risk. I’d go so far as to say it is settled but not accepted doctrine.
And so as an American trans woman, trust me, I’d rather be in Alabama than Tehran, as would most of the trans women in Tehran.
So have you ever met an Iranian trans person?
Yes.
Is it not the death penalty to be a straight trans person?
If you are a trans-man who is married to a woman, you are not subject to the death penalty, no.
Also as a woman she’s treated like shit
That’s definitely another problem. Although, again, in no way unique to Iran.
And so as an American trans woman, trust me, I’d rather be in Alabama than Tehran
Are you an American trans-woman living in Alabama? Or are you saying that from a significant safe distance?
Because I’ve got Trans relatives in Texas, and they are planning to GTFO before the year is up.
The only way the Middle East can be free is when the world stops valuing oil.
It’s all just puppets being shoved into each other at the expense of a lot of innocent lives.
Religion can fuck off as well.
Let me guess, the innocent people of Iran need to solve their own problems.
This thread is filled with too many chest beating men who typically make it about themselves, completely minimizing this young woman’s life and the crushing of the women’s rights movement in Iran.
Chest beating comparisons to American politics, or ranking police violence in the world, dehumanizing islamaphobic remarks, making themselves feel righteous.
Jesus I hate some people more and more just reading the news. It’s so horrible. I wish I didn’t know the full extend of barbarism humans are capable of.
The only thing that comes of ignorance is deeper ignorance.
Guys I really would like you to spare me I am 14 and this is deep takes, whenever I get notif I need to revisit this news piece again when I just want to erase it
sorry kid. you can’t hide form the world forever. we need those who are most disgusted to be the ones that break the cycle.
you have to look. it’s important. know what we are capable of and be prepared to fight it. most of you are good people. don’t be victims.
All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing
Avoid history books
Unlike in the US, where police are strictly prohibited from doing this. I tell other lies, as well.
Don’t worry, we can still use this to criticize the US (through us indirectly causing this regime to take power by helping to overthrow the leader of the previous, more democratic revolution)
I’m not sure what part of this article discusses the US?
Secret documents acquired by <Western news agency that spread Zionist propaganda before> showing <Country/Group Israel currently doesn’t like> sexually violating female. Original documents and/or evidence cannot be shown
Entire thread filled with Islamophobia
Yep, it’s Reddit time
So, chances are she killed herself? I don’t get what you’re trying to say… like, this article is lying?
Two things can be true at once.
Israel is a nasty religiously-driven nation committing genocide in the name of Judaism.
Iran is a nasty religiously-driven nation committing atrocities against it’s own citizens in the name of Islam.
Questions?
Based, but where did it say “Original documents and/or evidence cannot be shown”
This is a reproduction of the original document (omitting some information that could potentially identify the source)
Hey, do you mind putting that in the top level comment instead of the “no source” claim. Thanks.
And no, I don’t like the BBC. But what you have done is disingenuous as fuck.
Thats so real thanks for thay
Homie don’t play that shit in the middle east… Maybe some of these protesters (both sides) will nut up and head to the old Holy Land they are so passionate about and see what it’s like outside terrible Merica
Very Islamic, guys. /s
Islamic law allowed the distribution of female captives as spoils of war and for them to be bought and sold, becoming sexually lawful after a short waiting period to confirm they were not pregnant.
You are also allowed to rape your wives and slaves.
source: my ass 😁
But not molest randoms.
Sure, religion bad, but that’s not the point I was making.
I thought the point you were making was they were behaving exactly like islamists?
The point I was making is that they aren’t behaving in accordance with their own stated ideology.
It allows women (and men) which actively fight in wars and are captured to be sold as slaves. Not random civilians.
Oh well that’s reasonable then /s
Capturing people that try to kill you is a lot different than randomly kidnapping people from the street.
And the entire sex slave rape fantasy people are writing about doesn’t check out either. But I would not expect any less from people that verbatim repeat any Islamophobic propaganda they have read and never fact check it.
Some Islamic fun for ya, straight from the scripture.
Restriction on prisoner/sex slave rape (which is unfortunately not a ban on it, rather an acknowledgement, why is it only forbidden when pregnant?):
Narrated Umm Habibah bint 'Irbad bin Sariyah: From her father who told her that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) prohibited intercourse with female prisoners, until they deliver what is in their wombs."
(Hadith’s, 3:19:1564, https://quranx.com/Hadith/Tirmidhi/DarusSalam/Volume-3/Book-19/Hadith-1564/)
Child rape:
As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, and those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery.1 And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them.
(Quran 65:4, https://quran.com/at-talaq/4)
Gay murder:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.
(Hadith’s, 38:4447, https://quranx.com/Hadith/AbuDawud/USC-MSA/Book-38/Hadith-4447)
Murder of those who question Islam and decide it’s wrong:
Surely those who reject Our signs, We will cast them into the Fire. Whenever their skin is burnt completely, We will replace it so they will ˹constantly˺ taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is Almighty, All-Wise.
(Quran, 4:56, https://quran.com/4/56)
More “religion of peace” moments:
Surah 3:151: “We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …”
Surah 2:191: “And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)
Jews and Christians will be in the fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures - Quran 98:6
Surah 9:5: “Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …”
Jews & Christians, believe in Islam before We destroy your faces & twist them toward their backs & curse you - Quran 4:47
Those who disbelieve in Islam, We will drive you into a fire & roast your skins over & over - Quran 4:56
Those who resist Islam - Kill them, crucify them. Cut off their hands & feet from opposite sides - Quran 5:33
For the thief, the male & the female cut off their hands - Quran 5:38 Allah turned the Jews into apes and pigs - Quran 5:60
What is the matter with you that you do not fight Jihad in the cause of Allah? - Quran 4:75
Disbelievers worship Satan. So Muslims! fight against the disbelievers - Quran 4:76
Non-Muslims wish you would disbelieve like them. Do not be their friend until they emigrate for the cause of Islam. But if they turn away, seize them & kill them wherever you find them - Quran 4:89
And kill the unbelievers wherever you overtake them. Fitnah is worse than killing - Quran 2:191
Fight them until there is no more disbelieving of Islam & until all worship is for Allah alone - Quran 2:193
Fighting Jihad warfare has been ordered upon you. Perhaps you hate it, but its good for you - Quran 2:216
Those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment - Quran 3:4
Muslims! Do not take non-Muslims as friends - Quran 3:28
You will not enter Paradise before Allah tests those who fought Jihad in His Cause - Quran 3:142
We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve - Quran 3:151
If you are killed in Jihad in the cause of Allah it is better than anything else in this world - Quran 3:157
Never think of Jihadists who have been killed as dead. They are alive in paradise - Quran 3:169
Jihadi Martyrs receive good rewards and favour from Allah - Quran 3:171
Women who have unlawful sex. Lock the guilty women in their houses until they die - Quran 4:15
Men are in charge of women. Those wives from whom you fear arrogance - Advise them, forsake them in bed, Finally, beat them - Quran 4:34
Allah prefers those who fight Jihad in the Cause of Allah with their lives above those who sit at home - Quran 4:95
The disbelievers of Islam are ever to you a clear enemy - Quran 4:101
And the worldly life is not but amusement; but the home of the Hereafter is best for those who fear Allah. Quran 6:32
We destroyed many cities, Our terror came to them at night & while they were sleeping - Quran 7:4
The homosexuals, We rained upon them a rain of stones. Then see how the end of the criminals - Quran 7:84
Non-Muslims are comparable to dogs - Quran 7:176
Those who deny Our Quran - We will lead them to destruction from where they do not know - Quran 7:182
Terrorise & behead those who do not believe in Islam & strike off their fingertips - Quran 8:12
We will behead those who have wronged and others, know that Allah is severe in penalty - Quran 8:25
Keep Fighting the disbelievers until there is no more disbelief in Islam - Quran 8:39
The worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are non-Muslims - Quran 8:55
When you capture the unbelievers, punish them severely to deter the rest - Quran 8:57
Prophet Mohammed! To keep prisoners of war you must inflict a great massacre - Quran 8:67
Those who emigrate to an Islamic State & fight Jihad will go to paradise - Quran 8:74
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the unbelievers - Quran 9:5
Fight unbelievers. Fight them until they give the jizyah Muslim Tax - Quran 9:29
Jews and Christians are perverts, may Allah destroy them - Quran 9:30
Praise the Muhajireen fighters - Quran 9:100
Allah has purchased from the believers their lives & their properties in exchange for paradise - Quran 9:111
Muslims! Fight those disbelievers next to you and be harsh! - Quran 9:123
Jihadists the enemy won’t kill you, only Allah can do that - Quran 9:151
To disbelievers - Should we force Islam upon you? Against your will? - Quran 11:28
Whichever Muslim leaves Islam, upon you is wrath from Allah, and for you a great punishment - Quran 16:106
For those who disbelieve in Islam, garments of fire, boiling water will be poured over their heads - Quran 22:19
We will melt your skin and burn your stomach. And hooked rods of iron to punish you - Quran 22:20
O Muslims, abstain from sex, except with your wives & slave girls. Sex with them is lawful - Quran 23:6
Adulterers - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, & take no pity for them in the religion of Allah. Let a group of the believers witness their punishment - Quran 24:2
Muslims you may enter houses not inhabited, and take goods that you need - Quran 24:29
And do not compel your slave girls to prostitution - Quran 24:33
Do not obey the unbelievers but launch a great campaign against them with the help of the Quran - Quran 25:52
And this worldly life is not only a diversion and amusement, but paradise is also the real-life - Quran 29:64
Allah cast terror in the hearts of the Jews and Christians - Quran 33:26
Accursed, wherever found, they shall be seized and killed with a (terrible) slaughter - Quran 33:61
And if We willed, We could have deformed them, [paralyzing them] into lifeless objects, in their places so they would not be able to proceed, nor could they return (As it happened with the Jews see Verse 7:166) - Quran 36:67
Those who worshipped other than Allah, guide them to the path of Hellfire - Quran 37:23
Indeed, that is how We deal with the criminals - Quran 37:34
Indeed, you disbelievers of Islam will be tasters of the painful punishment - Quran 37:38
Those who deny the Quran, When the shackles are around their necks & chains; they will be dragged In boiling water; then in the Fire they will be burned - Quran 40:70
Those who disbelieve in Islam, strike off their heads. Take them as captives. The command of Allah - Quran 47:4
Thus you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam or at least come under your protection. If it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have punished them (without you). But he lets you fight, to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost. - Quran 47:4
You just pastebinned a generic unresearched islamophobia comment and did not manage to quote the scripture for any of your claim. Good job proving my point.
Everything I posted is quite literally either part of the Quran or Hadiths. They all are cited too so yeah, I did quote the scripture and you’re free to flick through scripture yourself to find them.
The first citations are ones I researched myself to refute your comment, and the others are from a list I saved a while back of the lovely… poetry of the Quran.
I’m very sorry they make Islam look bad. Take it up with the authors.
… Oh wait
You better tell them then cuz they be doing it.
If they were following Islamic law and this actually happened these three men would now have to be stoned to death.
The right wing hears: Damn it! They’ve got it better than us… shit’s unacceptabro
anon987, this is a troll. Someone who makes excuses for and supports the genocide against Palestinians by Israel. Basically using this tragedy to dehumanize people.
I am shocked. Shocked! Well maybe not that shocked.
Morality police, coming to a republic near you if you don’t vote.
Yeah, luckily right now we don’t have any kind of ‘security forces’ out there raping and killing people. we are soooo much better.
WTF is wrong with you? Your entire response entirely dismisses this young persons tragic, horrific demise. Just so you can throw out ‘we are soooo much better’ to make yourself feel some sort of twisted triumph??
Have the decency to give each tragedy the respect it deserves or just stfu. Have the decency to read her story and know her name instead of sweeping her existence away to suit your needs.
Fuck this Iranian regime. Fuck gross backwards ass patriarchal bs wherever it exists.
Yet the person they responded too wants to make it a political issue in america acting like there is any party interested to establish islamism. They use a racist dog whistle and you are here attacking the person calling them out. “Oh if you dont vote these evil Muslims will establish the morality police here”
I think he’s more talking about US Republicans wanting to have genital inspectors to enforce their new laws.
Their comment does not dismiss anything going on in Iran, as a matter of fact the dude is talking about the US. you’re somehow deflecting from their point and becoming outraged at something they never even said.
My point is why bring up the US. This story isn’t about the US. This has to do with Iran brutally crushing the Iranian women’s rights movement that rose up in 2020, “Woman, Life, Freedom”.
By turning the convo to the US and policing in the US, you end up minimizing their plight and this young woman’s story.
Ah, I got you.
I dont know, does your prison system allow for the rape of virgins who have received the death penalty because otherwise theyd to heaven? Have you ever picked up a rapper who critized the government, tortured him, released him and when he spoke up about his torture, the üolice arrested him again and sentenced him to death? Y’alls police ever shot a bystander to protest in the stomach and then killed anyone who tried to help her? Police ever busted a police violence victims funeral by killing attendants? Because the fucking iranian basij force did all of that within the last year.
Yeah american police is probably in the bottom 5 of western police forces, but its not “shooting 1,500 people in the streets because they didnt like gas price hike” bad.
What the fuck is the point of ranking police violence other than to beat your own chest and feel smug?
It’s dawning on me that many of the people using this tragedy to make comparisons are likely male.
How about focusing on the brutal crackdown on the women’s rights movement instead of making it about you?
