Looking for another part time job. the vast majority of these available jobs read like the creepy listing where some guy is looking for a roommate but is specifically looking for female roommates only.
Just gross.
Employer: what is your expected salary so we can offer you 10k less and then act surprised when you say no.
remember film “don’t be a menace to south central” mc did right thing when applied to job, wrote in job application paper “3 mil cash”, i mean, i would be good with $2990000 offer
Literally about to apply for a job that doesn’t post it, even though it is a government agency and they have fixed salary brackets for each job…
My old manager was complaining about a lack of quality applicants, i pointed out the advertisements don’t list the salary and she said since we’re government they can just look it up. Oh well, hope you like your lousy candidates.
The even more annoying one is when the listing says “Confidential” for both the salary and the company that’s hiring.
These are usually jobs that are listed by recruitment agencies. They don’t want you to know the company since then you could just apply directly to the company, and they won’t get their cut.
Recruitment agencies often take a percentage of the salary, at least for the first year, as payment for referring a successful applicant. It’s transparent to the jobseeker - the salary you see is after the agency’s cut.
The other time I see that here in Silicon Valley is for “stealth startups” - startups that are operating quietly, out of the spotlight, and haven’t yet applied for or gotten VC funding.
Don’t even bother with those, they should be trying to sell themselves to you as a great place to work
I get it in some cases hiding the company name but in that case, the salary should be disclosed as the bare minimum.
If they don’t list the salary, they definitely can’t afford me.
Nah, the ones where they list something like 20,000-250,000 for the range are worse.
I love when HR goes out of their way to let you know that the company are assholes before you apply.
Capitalists: But we shouldn’t do anything legally to affect the Free Market!
Proceeds to manipulate the Free Market
Grateful for the California law that requires every job post to include the salary range
Also from my recent experience most companies won’t agree to start you at more than 70% of that range as they want to be able to give raises before having to promote you
One other thing to keep in mind is that it is perfectly legal in most jurisdictions requiring pay transparency in job postings to only give a part of the pay range. Say the range is 60,000 - 100,000, they could just say 60,000 - 80,000 or whatever they’re willing to hire people at.
I don’t think this is necessarily wrong practice, but it’s definitely potentially misleading.
job postings are ops
Oh, no no, capitalism welcomes competition, don’t’y’know.
Just as long as it doesn’t mess with the profit margins.It’s law in California now.
I’ve had the same thing happen in person a few times. Some places just won’t tell you what they pay unless you can get an interview.
My current job, I asked what the pay was, they said 'you tell us what it should pay".
So I asked what the range was, and they said “thats not how this works, you tell us what you want” so I said a highish number for me at the time. They’re like “ok, that works”.
Turns out I make 40% less than all my co workers because I didn’t know what the range was commonly for this role. Theor game let me lowball myself. It’s completely BS.
I agree with the general sentiment, but I don’t believe that it’s right to wish harm upon them.
