• ramble81@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    One death is coincidental, two is suspicious, any more and it’s gonna become plainly obvious, and now there’s 10. That’s just delicious. They can’t silence them all.

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      2 months ago

      Can’t or won’t?

      Seriously, though, I wouldn’t be surprised, if a bunch of suicides or “retractions” are happening soon.

      How about 2 million if you shut up? No? How about we publish this dirt on you? Would be a shame, if some nameless robber orphans your children.

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      2 months ago

      Even one death under these circumstances is not a coincidence, and that ought to be coded into law. You’d better fucking well hope the person who blows a whistle on you is healthy - that’s the world we should move towards. Not that that couldn’t also be abused, but the pendulum is way too fucking far this way.

    • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      It certainly warrants investigation, but the way the second guy died is actually not particularly suspicious. He got pneumonia, then he got MRSA in a hospital. 50,000-100,000 people every year get MRSA in a hospital setting, almost always people of his demographic with pneumonia, and it is incredibly lethal. We have upwards of 10,000 deaths a year due to it. Again, almost all casualties are his demographic.

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        And it is suspected that thousand of elderly people are murdered every year, but it is ruled as a natural death, because the demographic is prone to natural deaths and nobody bothers to check further.

        At the very least demanding a throughout investigation in both cases is absolutely reasonable.

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        2 months ago

        So in other words, very plausible deniability.

        https://allthatsinteresting.com/heart-attack-gun

        We had that tech in 1968. I’m pretty sure it would be a matter of a phone call and some change from the couch cushions for Boeing to create that outcome.

        Does this mean they did it? No.

        Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes.

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          So “it can be done” is now evidence of a grand conspiracy? What did I say that remotely indicated I didn’t think it was possible from a logistics perspective? How does showing me the existence of a heart attack gun from the 60s prove boeing murdered people? How is any of this relevant?

          This is why conspiracy theories don’t die. “It’s possible that…” becomes “I could see that…” then it becomes “that happened.” All without a single shred of evidence necessary. We have wild imaginations.

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            Does this mean they did it? No.

            Does it warrant the reaction folks are having about it? Absolutely yes. (Edit - In light of their current troubles and the fate of the prior whistleblower.)

            I stand by that statement, and don’t feel like trying again to connect the dots on the relevancy of my example for you. Whatever you are arguing about is - not the same.

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            2 months ago

            They may have ironed that out, this article is talking about tech that is more than half a century old. We got from first aeroplane to man on the moon in less than that.

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            2 months ago

            From the article:

            All that would be left behind was a tiny red dot where the dart entered the body, undetectable to those who didn’t know to look for it.

            • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              2 months ago

              Well that’s it. Case closed. The existence of a heart attack gun in 1968 proves Boeing killed 2 whistleblowers in 2024. Good job gang.

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                Well that’s it. Case closed. The existence of a heart attack gun in 1968 proves Boeing killed 2 whistleblowers in 2024. Good job gang.

                Literally no one has made that statement, including me, the guy who brought up the heart attack gun. Take a breath man.

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                  2 months ago

                  Yeah I’m so worked up over here…?

                  He is clearly implying that the boeing thing is possible because things like this exist. Otherwise why bring it up?

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      2 months ago

      The first wasn’t coincidental. He said “hey they might murder me” then he died right before testifying.

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        Well, iirc he didn’t show for his deposition, or the day after, or the day after that, at which point the lawyers sent people to find him and found he “committed suicide”.

        This is after he said “I am absolutely not going to commit suicide over this. If I die and people say it was suicide, I was killed.”