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I can’t believe people trust others enough to rent their house out like a hotel. I’ve already seen so many problems from this I can’t believe it’s still legal. My neighbor moved and they turned it into an AirBnB, some kids threw a party and left some trash out that poisoned my other neighbors dog. There’s a lawsuit, but the dog is still fucking dead.
I don’t know if I’ve ever been in an airbnb that’s actually somebody’s house. It seems like they’re mostly “investment properties” that people rent out. I’m sure that’s great for housing. \s
It started this way tho, people renting a room or a couch in their home. Pretty quickly it became either full units or rooms in a share appartement with other AirBnB guests.
What does some kids leaving trash out have to do with air bnb?
Edit: didn’t read about how Airbnb insured property damage. But still, it’s hard to be responsible for the actions of others.
Yeah that’s why inviting strangers into your home unsupervised is stupid.
Accidentally? Man these writers will suck any corporate dick.
Big tech - move fast, break things, disrupt, and destroy
Like kudzu
Southerner here. FYI, kudzu is nowhere near as bad as this big tech shit. It doesn’t actually engulf entire forests; it just looks like it does because it covers the edges of them and that’s mostly the part that people see.
or feral swine
Accidentally?
Same when NASA accidentally landed on the moon
No. I can see this being unfairly interpreted.
Hotels were a nightmare, cabs were a nightmare. These companies indisputably changed the game in the favour of the consumer all around the world.
Where we are now having an issue is large swaths of housing taken over by companies and investors wanting a return. As long as housing and renting are attractive for investment over and about housing and transitory renting, it will attract lots of money.
Supply must be improved to improve the housing market. This should be a continuous government function at least at the low and middle income level not just a private endeavour.
Density and public transport is the answer - not killing something that absolutely changed the game and took the hotel and cab market back to their customers begging for a chance.
What wasn’t a nightmare was bed and breakfasts. They also weren’t an excuse to keep property off the housing rental market at scale.
These companies aren’t saviours, they’re businesses who rode public tech optimism and common frustration at established industries in the same fields to stay ahead of regulation and have the public demand it. Surprise, they’re the same businesses.
Yes, bed and breakfasts rock, and I try to use them when I travel because the experience is way better.
Don’t have bed and breakfast money. They are regularly more expensive and have less choices than Airbnb
Agreed on cabs but hotels haven’t changed anything significantly and they’re looking much better than AirBnB at this point.
Yeah, I think the main issue is supply. Airbnb works because of a mix of supply and costs. There just aren’t many nice places to stay in resort areas, and the few that exist are extremely expensive (e.g. fancy hotels). Likewise, hotels are often more expensive and less convenient if you have a large group (e.g. my family likes to vacation together, and there’s like 20 of us).
The problem seems to be long term residents feeling the pain of increased housing costs. If you legislate against that, those tourists will still need to go somewhere, which means more hotels or more strain on transportation from the outlying areas to the tourist area. If mass transit is effective, that’s not a big issue, but far too often that’s not the case, so you’ll just end up with tons of traffic.
My proposal is to not ban it, but instead limit it to residents, so in order to do short-term rentals, you need to be physically present a majority of the year. Otherwise, you need to apply as a regular rental, which can be limited to certain areas near transit hubs to keep traffic under control. Then improve transit into the area so tourists who don’t fit in the city can easily get there.
“Accident” fkn lol
Just a little fucksy wucksy :3
“accidentally” 🤦♂️
It was - and is - entirely fucking intentional.
I feel like the US is far down on the victims list. Look how they massacred my boys Spain, Italy, and the Netherlands
Prague city center is basically just airbnb flats now
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Oopsie doopsie
The only thing they’ve ever done on accident was make their logo look like a ballsack.
Can’t unseen it now, thanks.
Lol
Remember back before Airbnb when this was just a free thing called couch surfing?
i mean couch surfing is guest and host being there and interacting with each other.
AirBnB is getting the flat for yourself for the time you rent it.
That’s exactly how airBnB started though. Then they moved to renting out the whole place and now we are where we are.
A big part of Airbnb used to be spending time with a host. It has since turned into just landlord via app.
Uber was originally marketed as ride-sharing, too. Just an app to find people going the same way. Of course, I’m fairly sure that their current iterations was the plan all along as anyone with enough business sense to start those companies must have predicted that there would be people who take on Uber/AirBnB as a primary source of income. But sharing your hours or planning a shared trip is much more palatable than “Landlords but Worse”.
http://couchsurfing.com/ Still exists
But i can’t imagine as many people on there when they can just rent out for money
why free when you can make money?
Maybe they should ban whole home AirBNB… i only ever do rooms.
Theyd part out a hous into multiple rooms. I stayed at one airbnb that were 3 stories and each one was another airbnb, with a kitchen on the main level that had to be shared. No one used it for the 3 days i was there, but still.
You can easily regulate against that.
No regulation is worth anything without enforcement.
Sure. That’s step two. You gotta do step one first.
I agree. It wasn’t meant to be against regulations. Problem is in my city we have plenty of regulations to avoid repurposing flats for tourist rentals without a permit, we have regulations against systematically letting flats empty to be able to sell the house or flat at a premium etc. But we only have like three dozen government employees, who are supposed to oversee a city with more than 1.5 million flats and individual homes. So even if every one of them manages to check on 2 flats every day, they manage like 15.000 flats a year, which is already a rather optimistic estimate.
It is crucial to not only demand regulation, but also that enough resources are assigned to enforce them.
How
Through the tax code. If you have a short term rental property that’s not a primary residence: shazam busted. You’d need some kind of policing for it but you could force airbnb to make a filing on it as well which would make it possible to automate.
Just gonna leave this here. Pick your favorite city.