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It’s also important to note that ChatGPT internet search and DuckDuckGo are experiencing similar issues because they use the Bing API.
UPDATE 2
It’s also important to note that ChatGPT internet search and DuckDuckGo are experiencing similar issues because they use the Bing API.
Okay.
Now that we already know we are pretty much at the hands of one pupeteer, what options are there?
I already read about Kagi (apologies if mispelled) but I like to write as a hobby and 300 searches per month go fast.
What other options are there?
There’s also mojeek.com running their own index. Not perfect, but sometimes usable.
you can also send us in queries where we’re not perfect, or let us know elsewhere, and we’re keen on fixing them
That was unexpected, but welcome message. Thanks for caring.
I jumped back on ecosia. It’s nice there, but I’m sure there are issues that a non tech person like me may not know about
Read somewhere on the thread Ecosia is part of Bing ecosystem.
It is. That or it was very coincidentally down for the exact amount of time as DDG.
Ecosia also uses Bing and was also down. That’s the one I use.
There’s a new search engine called Yep, made by the team at Ahrefs, a SEO tool SaaS.
It looks promising because they have their own index, but it’s a bit slow sometimes.
ugh
Just letting you know kagi has a family plan with unlimited searches, so you can probably split it with family or friends! I have yet to see how searxng search holds up to kagi.
Appreciate the edits
You’re welcome.
Was this news to you? Other than Google and Bing there aren’t any other significant alternatives. Even brave is a bit limited.
You can’t know everything.
Yes, I understand that, but still surprised. I thought it was well known that DDG used bing.
Today, I was the 1% getting to know something new.
Just pay the extra for unlimited searches. It’s not much money, especially if it’s a tool for work.
It’s a hobby as it is.
If I ever manage to sell enough copies of it to be able to pay for a Kagi subscription, I’ll do it and make it public knowledge.
Listen sugartits, some of us don’t have much money. So if it’s not much money we still don’t have it
(Mostly i just wanted to point out your username by using it in a comment)
That was one of the most out of the blue comments I have ever read. It sounded so… unreal. Something out of a sitcom. Then I read “sugartits” is the name of the lemmy you were replying to. That’s was really top mark. Kudos for you.
Mojeek is far from perfect, but also is 100% independent.
Thank you I tried Mojeek a few days ago but I forgot what it was called. the site for mojeek is mojeek.com btw.
Sometimes it’s a hard one to remember 😅
That’s a nice hobby
I would suggest you to install a local instance of a LLM (mistral or llama3 for example) to widen your source of information. Go straight to Wikipedia instead of “googling” it if you don’t already.
Anyway, I didn’t know about kagi so I might take my own advice and give it a try.
Brave search is independent. It was trained with google search but now it’s a thing of its own and doesn’t rely on google. I switched from DuckDuckGo a year ago and haven’t looked back
trained? like AI trained?
No?
Yeah I was confused by that choice of words. Train is for ML and AIs. Search engines used to need crawlers to run regularly because, you know, shit changes.
Nope, like it used to index from google but now it doesn’t. DuckDuckGo gets all its results from bing
brave search is pretty good: https://search.brave.com/