Europeans — especially Germans — are increasingly keen on curbing immigration and are less focused on climate change, according to a study by a Danish-based think tank.
No, this was the right comment to respond to - your comment lacked empathy to why people might become migrants and reminded me a lot of Ebenezer Scrooge commenting on the poor without empathy to the fact that he was contributing to their poverty.
Us first-world nations play a large role in the global warming that drives climate refugees… I think it’s extremely immoral to just put up a big wall and tell people fleeing desertification to go somewhere else after making their home uninhabitable.
It doesn’t, but we’re all humans and if some of us wreck another person’s country it feels unjust to leave that person stateless.
There might be a basic misunderstanding here… at the rate climate change is going some areas of the earth that are currently inhabitable are becoming uninhabitable. There are farms being swallowed up by desert and the people who were fed by that farm have no where to go.
There are people who live in the artic and those who live in deserts. People even farm in the desert. It might not be great, but itll be more than inhabitable.
You do know that not very many people live in those places, right? It wouldn’t be sustainable. India has over a billion people and the Himalayan glaciers they depend on for water are not getting replenished.
Are you suggesting people culturally removed from your own are a threat to you in some way?
I can rather confidently say that there are cultures with values that are a threat to me, my society and my values, yes.
Cause damn. That’d be embarrassing.
Not in the slightest.
Or are your own police not more violent to their citizens?
No. For a very long time our police was amongst the least violent in the world. Probably still is.
What is it that allowing immigrants in doesn’t improve?
It reduces the productivity of society. Most certainly on an output/capita level, probably even on a total output level. Previously we were able to afford huge amounts of support to organizations such as the UNHCR (almost 1% of GDP) - money that could be used to make the places these people are moving away from better. That isn’t the case anymore.
The solution isn’t to move everyone to developed countries, it is to improve the situation in developing countries. We can’t help with that if our country is an unstable mess of migrant gangs attacking each other and the rest of us.
lol I’d be embarrassed to have such a narrow-minded worldview. You should be too. But go on and stay stubborn, I don’t care. I’d tell you to enjoy your life, but that won’t be possible for you. Is sad.
It’s amazing how quickly you resorted to toothless personal insults when you ran out of relevant things to say. Would be sad if it wasn’t so funny. Thanks!
You’re correct. I tagged you as “low value user” and will only respond to you as such from now on, because I don’t value your opinion in any way shape or form.
Nah, but the sinking rafts bullshit is a super dangerous ploy and needs to be addressed somehow. We cant incentivize it. Maybe just jail everyone involved so no one wants to pay just to sit in an Italian prison?
I’m sure people who accept the realistic risk of drowning - most cannot swim - will be discouraged by the threat of… being in a prison with better living conditions than their home?
I’m sure people who accept the realistic risk of drowning - most cannot swim - will be discouraged by the threat of… being in a prison with better living conditions than their home?
You can say no to migrants. Just dont let them in. Its that easy.
Oh, you must mean the ones who migrate the properly legal way?
That’s some seriously deplorable bullshit
Fuck off and watch “A Christmas Carol” again… but this time try and realize that Ebenezer Scrooge isn’t meant to be a role model.
Did you reply to the wrong comment? I said nothing about prisons or unions?
No, this was the right comment to respond to - your comment lacked empathy to why people might become migrants and reminded me a lot of Ebenezer Scrooge commenting on the poor without empathy to the fact that he was contributing to their poverty.
Us first-world nations play a large role in the global warming that drives climate refugees… I think it’s extremely immoral to just put up a big wall and tell people fleeing desertification to go somewhere else after making their home uninhabitable.
How does letting someone move to your country fix their country?
It doesn’t, but we’re all humans and if some of us wreck another person’s country it feels unjust to leave that person stateless.
There might be a basic misunderstanding here… at the rate climate change is going some areas of the earth that are currently inhabitable are becoming uninhabitable. There are farms being swallowed up by desert and the people who were fed by that farm have no where to go.
There are people who live in the artic and those who live in deserts. People even farm in the desert. It might not be great, but itll be more than inhabitable.
You do know that not very many people live in those places, right? It wouldn’t be sustainable. India has over a billion people and the Himalayan glaciers they depend on for water are not getting replenished.
And moving them here doesnt fix the sustainability problem either. It just moves sustainability problems here.
Yes. Just tell millions upon millions of suffering people they can’t cross the invisible line to find refuge.
Genius strategy.
How would letting them across improve anyones situations?
Me me me me me me me me me me me …
You’re like a broken record already.
Are you suggesting people culturally removed from your own are a threat to you in some way?
Cause damn. That’d be embarrassing.
Like did they train your job in pantomime?
Or are your own police not more violent to their citizens?
What is it that allowing immigrants in doesn’t improve?
Well yes, some cultures are dangerous. Rape culture for instance.
As for jobs, short sighted management will always take a lower skilled worker for less money.
Honestly, I dont see how immigration helps the worker, theyre scabs in my book.
…rape culture? Wtf kind of truth social bullshit are you on about? This question is rhetorical.
As for jobs, only if you have 0 fucking skills. Get good and stfu.
Your arguing that “foreigners are highly skilled professionals here to take our jobs but also they’re criminals and rapist boogymen”
They can’t be both, unless they’re, ya know, just regular humans like your neighbor.
Christ.
I see you didnt bother actually reading my comment. Go back and try again.
I can rather confidently say that there are cultures with values that are a threat to me, my society and my values, yes.
Not in the slightest.
No. For a very long time our police was amongst the least violent in the world. Probably still is.
It reduces the productivity of society. Most certainly on an output/capita level, probably even on a total output level. Previously we were able to afford huge amounts of support to organizations such as the UNHCR (almost 1% of GDP) - money that could be used to make the places these people are moving away from better. That isn’t the case anymore.
The solution isn’t to move everyone to developed countries, it is to improve the situation in developing countries. We can’t help with that if our country is an unstable mess of migrant gangs attacking each other and the rest of us.
lol I’d be embarrassed to have such a narrow-minded worldview. You should be too. But go on and stay stubborn, I don’t care. I’d tell you to enjoy your life, but that won’t be possible for you. Is sad.
It’s amazing how quickly you resorted to toothless personal insults when you ran out of relevant things to say. Would be sad if it wasn’t so funny. Thanks!
You’re correct. I tagged you as “low value user” and will only respond to you as such from now on, because I don’t value your opinion in any way shape or form.
Cheers! 🥂
Do you think the people who fear migration care the slightest bit about anyone but themselves?
An awful number of them would support attacking rafts filled with refugees with military warships.
Nah, but the sinking rafts bullshit is a super dangerous ploy and needs to be addressed somehow. We cant incentivize it. Maybe just jail everyone involved so no one wants to pay just to sit in an Italian prison?
I’m sure people who accept the realistic risk of drowning - most cannot swim - will be discouraged by the threat of… being in a prison with better living conditions than their home?
Thats true. But something has to done about the sinking rafts.
I’m sure people who accept the realistic risk of drowning - most cannot swim - will be discouraged by the threat of… being in a prison with better living conditions than their home?
Wat?