• xenomor@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The time has long passed whereby we need to remove Google as the effective governing authority of the internet. As with most things online, a good idea ballooned into a net negative for nearly everyone else. This fact was obvious decades ago. There needs to be actual competition and government need to reassert itself as more than a rubber stamp for business growth.

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        i’m using a mix of ddg startpage and occasionally yandex, and its been good so far.

        if you have more good suggestions drop em here.

      • 1984@lemmy.today
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        Kagi… It’s so good you forget Google.

        And what do you mean “even mozilla”… There are money deals between these Google and mozilla. Google pays mozilla a lot of money to set Google as default search.

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          It is so good that when I use Google on someone else’s computer, I’m surprised at how bad Google has become.

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        6 months ago

        startpage, had the Best results for me in the last couple of months, much better then google. and the anonymous view feature is handy and neat

      • AncientMariner@lemm.ee
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        6 months ago

        As the default as it pays for web development. You can change this to DuckDuckGo in settings and I strongly recommend that you do.

  • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
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    6 months ago

    Annoying stuff, but I’ve suspected for awhile.

    My personal blog is life changing, but y’all will never find it, at this rate. /Sarcasm

    More seriously, a decade ago my personal blog was the number one article on the Internet for like 3 deeply esoteric technical topics. Neat.

    At some point, that stopped happening. I didn’t give it serious thought, because those articles were never meant for anything but my personal reference, anyway.

    But it made me wonder what was going on with the algorithms.

    On one hand, I figure people can just go to stack overflow. Except, I don’t participate in SO, because they’re a bunch of tossers. But then, I figure someone else can just copy my write-up into Stack Overflow. Except, no one does, anymore, probably because they can’t find my blog either.

    Again, my blog is mostly useless shit. So maybe the algorithm was just doing it’s job. But I’ve wondered for awhile if the Internet wasn’t just plain better a decade ago when search actually worked.

    Whose blogs was I missing out on? Now I find stuff like that through Mastodon, but it still isn’t targeted topical search, yet.

    I need to get in on that web ring action going on.

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      Yeah, honestly it would be fascinating if you wanted to go search for the specific terms that you think should bring that up, and then compare how deep your blog is in the results on a bunch of different web search pages.

    • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      When I look up the name of my blog, it shows up. Unlikely for it to come up if people look up just the title I think. Maybe I’ll give it a try

      • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
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        None of the most obvious searches I tried came up with my blog, but I did find some better resources (to me, than my blog, which admittedly I don’t care to find since there’s nothing new there for me…) on blogs that it did find. It looks like it’s doing the kind of search I used to rely on. Pretty cool!

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          That’s good. I asked because Google wiped out all non-mobile search results for mobile devices. This happened in 2015 so I was thinking the timeline kinda matches.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    6 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Bringing the right webpage to your computer is no passive task as thousands of editorial decisions are made on your behalf by a secretive group of Googlers.

    Several SEO experts tell Gizmodo the leak lists 14,000 ranking features which, at the very least, lay a blueprint for how Google organizes everything on the web.

    Google has previously denied that it uses some of these ranking features in Search, but the company confirmed these documents are real, albeit, in its telling, imperfect.

    “We would caution against making inaccurate assumptions about Search based on out-of-context, outdated, or incomplete information,” a Google spokesperson said in an email to Gizmodo.

    King and Fishkin also noticed the ‘isCovidLocalAuthority” and “isElectionAuthority” in their writeups of the leak, both pointing out the importance of search engines in elevating quality information.

    “It’s a non-statement that doesn’t address the leak, provides no value, and might well have been written by an AI trained on the past decade’s most soulless corporate messaging.”


    The original article contains 1,476 words, the summary contains 162 words. Saved 89%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!