• KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    We’re learning in real time that the ICC and UN are great tools, until they disagree with you, at which point they can be ignored and even threatened.

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          4 months ago

          Well. That’s not true.

          Israel is committing genocide. But that doesn’t mean Hamas is a blameless party in everything they’ve ever done. They’re just the only representatives and defense for the Palestinian people. They’re basically the only port in a storm. But let’s not pretend they’re fucking saints here.

          At the end of the day, Hamas are far right fundamentalists. Right now, they’re the relative good guys—but only because of how unbelievably evil Israel is being. If Israel weren’t committing genocide against the Palestinian people, Hamas would probably be doing odious things to stay in power (the last time they were elected, I believe less than half of the current population was alive. And they were elected in the early 2000s. Although that doesn’t say much other than how young the population of Palestine is). Because they’re not “good,” it’s just what Israel is doing is pushing the needle for “bad” so far to the right that Hamas can’t help but coming out looking better by comparison.

          • Aux@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            Are Ukrainians fighting against genocide today terrorists as well?

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              4 months ago

              Hamas and Ukraine are not the same. Hamas is a far right religious organization—which proves how complex and nuanced this situation is, because it’s not a secret that Ukraine has a neoNazi problem among a few of their regiments. It’s not what Russia is saying, that the whole force is Nazis and therefore they need to continue their genocide, but it’s pretty quickly visible when you look that the huge disadvantage that Ukraine is at has made them make some uneasy alliances with horrible people.

              When Hamas is firing missiles, they’re not committing terrorism. But when they start attacking, capturing civilians to make a point, you’re crossing the line into terrorism. Why a music festival? Was that a fight against genocide? No. That was to instill fear. That’s the difference. Ukraine didn’t shoot up that Russian concert like Russia tried to claim. That was a terrorist act committed by a terrorist group.

              There’s fighting the genocidal government, and then there’s fighting people’s ideas with horrific acts against civilians.

              This is an incredibly nuanced topic because, you’re right, it’s a very strange gray area. Hamas is fighting against a genocidal government. But that’s done on the ground, that’s done with missiles. Attacking a music festival is pretty clearly meant to break the will of people. Not the government. (And in this definition, we can very easily say the Israeli government is committing genocide, apartheid, and they’re using terrorism to do it.) This has been proven true by the fact that Israel is only using the hostages as an emotional trigger for Israelis to continue supporting the government’s genocide. See what I’m saying?

            • uis@lemm.ee
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              4 months ago

              Putin says yes. And he passed sanctions against ICC.

  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I guess I’m gonna have to start practicing a New Zealand accent so I can travel in peace. G’day, mate! Wait, no. That’s wrong.

    Is there a Duolingo for picking up an accent? Or maybe I can do something else. How much Buckfast do I need to drink before I sound Scottish?

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    4 months ago

    The Illegitimate Court Counteraction Act, led by Texas Republican Rep. Chip Roy, would require mandatory sanctions and visa restrictions on any foreign person working or providing funds for the ICC in prosecutions against the U.S., Israel or any other U.S. ally that is not party to the ICC.

    Oh no, anything but that.

    • SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      “you’ve seen our war crimes, now you’re no longer welcome here”

      As if you’d go be a tourist in a country, just after you’ve seen solders of said country commit, or politicians and citizens actively defend war crimes. Plenty of pretty cool other things to see.

  • uis@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Meamwhile ICC has arrest warrant for Putin. Those reps are honorable members of United Russia.

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    4 months ago

    His is it they can sanction the ICC but when SCOTUS judges flaunt their corruption, they’re all “welp nothing we can do lol.”

  • Damage@feddit.it
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    4 months ago

    If only this convinced skeptics in the EU that we need to further integrate our Union and stand stronger against this bullshit from the USA

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    4 months ago

    In a contest between self-interest and international law, self-interest wins with this very tribal group.

    I wish they could be better.

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      4 months ago

      “Tribal?” A lot of Democrats supported this, it seems like a rare example of bipartisan cooperation to me. Why do you think it’s an example of tribalism?