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The HIPAA concerns are very alarming. And I agree with the spirit if the article. However, I’m not sure the article is correct when it says Recall cannot be disabled. I’ve already seen other articles telling you how to turn it off. The fact that it’s opt-out and nit opt-in is a huge issue, though.
Actually it is more than a local problem. Since Recall shipped with opt-out, means every computer will have this enabled. Even if you truned it off, the computer on the other end may still capture your data.
Say you said something here, regret about and delete it, but right before a user have Recall enabled see it and can just dig out your now deleted comment. Not good. This applies to HIPAA data or not.
This is essentailly a local search engine that index everything you see and others said in near real time, without repecting
robots.txt.Yes, that is also a big problem. In general you should be very aware in online meetings / screen sharing to be very cautious and deliberate with what you show. That problem has burned a streamer or two. :) Having a boring vanilla “work machine” for that sort of thing is always a good idea. Windows Recall definitely makes this problem worse! You could be doing 100% legit professional ‘work stuff’ and it could still grab things that it shouldn’t (HIPAA and many other potentially sensitive bits of corporate data).
If you disable it, make sure to check on it regularly, as MS loves to turn things back on “for you” after Windows updates run. I’ve already seen some sysadmins saying they will run a scheduled task to make sure it stays dead.
No Microsoft is not doing that. They are trying to be in front of the curve. If they succeed to integrate ai into the os and be the first, they will win.
Lol
That they want to commit suicide is more plausible?
I was laughing at the idea that this is cutting edge and their intentions are to break new ground. Vs what it is: a brazen attempt to invade the fuck out of privacy for monetary gain
This is objectively cutting edge as this is in development and no less than of a field in which the most money and effort is put right now. Really the definition of cutting edge. Their inventions will also objectively and very obviously break new ground as there is no os that would have ai so integrated. There is no privacy invasion, not sure what your are taking about as nothing would be shared with anyone.
I think you must be extremely confused. Except about the monetary gain, but I hope we don’t have to talk about why companies exist.
There is no privacy invasion, not sure what your are taking about as nothing would be shared with anyone.
This is based on the claim that MS has made that they won’t access the data (hilarious) and the assumption that no one is getting hacked.
You sound like a fanboy.
You are completely irrational. You can’t think straight. That’s why you think something is funny, but then 1.4 billion users will use it and like it and then you will like it too. It’s so childish.
I’m not a fanboy. I’ve been a hater for 30 years. And for 30 years I’ve been dreaming of an os that could understand what I want. One that would predict my actions, perhaps do them instead of me. It’s insane it took so much time.
And now, finally when we are getting closer, people like you, who have already shared everything on blogs, fb, twitter, ig, discord, and all the shitty services imaginable, are complaining that this is an invasion of privacy. Is just insane. It’s so insane that I acknowledged you enough to talk to you. Immediately when you will see the minimum practicality of this, you will use it and think nothing of how you wrote you laugh at me (although we both know what’s up, don’t we).
Anyway. Bye.
Great argument… if that’s what you call that.
A lot of people are leaving windows, and each new feature seems to add to that. I’ve been avoiding windows every chance I’ve had for about 25 years myself.
Stay mad.
The new Recall feature they’re trying to push is creepy as fuck. No thanks.
Glad I moved to linux a few years ago so I don’t have to worry about any of this trash.
I never thought I’d see one of Charlie’s blogs posted around Lemmy unless it was about his books. Good to see him getting some recognition.
I’ve seen this over and over in corporate environments.
Suit A has a terrible idea but enough fawning bootlickers to get the process moving.
Worker A, an employee, knows this is a terrible idea but doesn’t say anything because they wanna keep their job.
Contractor B, obv a contractor, is there to make money and hopefully turn their stint into something more, so they speak up. And get canned.
What is it about Suits that they can’t listen to literally anyone but their own echo chambers? Oh yeah, they’re angling to jump into a bigger echo chamber. The 1%.
I’m Worker A, and I speak up when I get asked to implement something terrible. Sometimes it works, but usually they don’t care. At least I don’t lose my job over it.
I can’t imagine working in a place where you have to be in fear of speaking the truth. I have never suffered negative consequences at any company I’ve worked at for pointing out why a terrible idea is terrible, but I’ve seen plenty of people who are afraid to speak up. It puzzles me.
I’ve thought this ever since Windows 8 (and when I went from dual-boot to Linux only). In retrospect, at least Ballmer treated Windows like a PC operating system.
Ever since Nadella took over, it seems like MS is trying to turn Windows into ChromeOS but for Microsoft’s cloud services. Pretty sure they want PCs to be thin clients tied to subscriptions. No fucking thanks.
Windows 8! Haha! Ahh, I’d call it the “New Coke” of Windows but that probably wouldn’t help anyone who wasn’t there.
You know it’s bad when ballmer seems to be the rational person
Oh, absolutely lol. Definitely one of those cases where you didn’t know what you had until it’s gone.
Microsoft has essentially forgotten what a desktop GUI is for. It’s a program launcher packaged with a set of libraries that make it easy for other programs to do complex things like displaying video in a uniform way, plus some system administration tools. Pack-ins not related to system administration should be limited to very basic software.
There may be something that Microsoft has added to Windows lately that isn’t bloat, or evil, or both, but damned if I know what it is.
They haven’t forgotten. They don’t care.
No they’re simply trying to emulate Google and Facebook by becoming data gatherers and hoarders. They’ve been jealous of how much data other companies have gathered about people, and then realized they could easily do the same.
I think you might be bit underestimating how much data Microsoft actually already has. They have just being better of keeping it to them self. MS from these three is the only one who is not an ad company, so they don’t have to sell the data to 3rd parties to be profitable. They can just hoard the data, bit like Amazon+AWS.
They need to stop polishing a turd. It was a great OS when it was windows 98, but at this point they’ve just tried to shove so much iOS and Linux into it that it’s a shadow of its former self.
They need a shadow team to make a new product that isn’t windows and is basically just a kde Linux distro.
Ehhh, Win98 had serious issues but your argument would be mostly true for Windows 7 after it had been out for several years.
No, it’s the opposite. Lack of innovation and failure to adapt to new technologies and new trends would be a way to commit suicide. Betteridge’s law applies here.
Recall specifically may be a misstep in its current form. But the overall drive to come up with applications for AI is not. it’s a reasonable strategy. You can’t call the whole thing a failure because one product has problems. Microsoft didn’t curl up and die after Windows ME, to use a more extreme example.
Corporations must generate growth to please their investors no matter what. If the CEO doesn’t do it the board members will replace him with someone who will.
Microsoft cannot significantly generate growth by increasing their user base by making a more attractive product anymore. They have maxed out their share of the market. So they must pursue other ways to generate “growth”, like data mining their customers to generate an additional source of income.
In this kind of situation you will see all sorts undesirable behaviors emerge from corporations like that, like lowering the quality of their products or cutting down on their workforce to “reduce cost” event though they are already turning a profit.
We will see this shit happen over and over again until we come up with a solution to this “infinite growth” problem.
until we come up with a solution to this “infinite growth” problem.
This is why cancer research is so important. But for now, we can try the old standbys of surgical removal and full-system poison.
I think they are preparing to go full cloud soon. You can make much more when customers have to pay something like 29$ a month to use the operating system. At home or work there will be just a thin client left. And this recall database will be worth much more to harvest data when you have to store it on azure. I am sure this will come eventually. Storing it local is just the first step. Once the backslash is over and everyone is using it they will move the stuff to the cloud. “You will own nothing and be happy”.
Agreed, I see signs of this with on-premises Sharepoint and Exchange moving to a “subscription edition” for the next release. And then at some point years later they’ll just say “we’re not renewing subscription edition licenses, migrate to the cloud or else”.
Global society is trying to commit suicide . It’s a normal behaviour when anyone gives a single fuck of common things. Everyone there is trying to make it and just leave . Most corporations is happening the same and I think is happening in societies too. There is nothing left to fight for in community.
I’ve been a user since Dos 5.0 and Windows 3.0.
Today I mostly use Linux Mint on my dual boot laptops and need to convert my main PC over to dual boot Mint next. I rarely boot into windows at home and if it wasn’t for proprietary software at work running only on Windows I would have been done sooner.
I was mostly able to go from XP to 7 and avoided Vista and 8 altogether. Windows 10 was sort of ok with the ability to go back to a Windows 7 control panel when needed but it always felt half baked and unfinished to me.
I’ve just not been interested in 11 at all and the tidbits I’m hearing about Co-pilot reminds me of not only Clipit but the forcing of IE/ Edge constantly on user’s especially after every larger update but to mention resetting the default PDF reader to edge. In a work environment of 20 plus shop PC’s I was managing for low tech skill employees it was a pain in the ass chasing down the changes that were not made on my behalf.
What will be the Co-pilot’s flavor of this new round of BS from Microsoft? The forcing of a cloud account is another headache I don’t want to deal with either.
I will say Mint just mostly does what I need for my web browsing and general productivity needs without the constant game of trying to keep it the way I want it versus what MS wants for me with every update.
I’m at the stage of get off my lawn and screaming at a cloud in the sky next. That cloud is MS these days when adding in the annoyances of their Android keyboard *Swiftkey injecting Co-pilot and Bing into my searches. I’ve not played in Office 365 for a bit now but I can only imagine it’s just as bad now.
No. Lots of normies will happily turn these new features on.
