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    This meme brought to you by people who think high fructose corn syrup is an ingredient

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      That’s not really a joke though? There are lots of curries that were invented in the UK and the British are actually the ones that introduced curry to most of the world and the curries you get pretty much anywhere outside of South Asia are British curries or based on British curries.

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      That’s what Padme wants in this image macro though

      Brit’s do pies though, anything in a pie then it’s British. A curry pie then there you go

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        To be honest, pizza in its best known iteration originally was from Naples and parts South. When Italian-American GI’s (most were descended from immigrants from Southern Italy where they had pizza) were helping to rid Italy of Nazi’s during WWII, they were aghast that places North of Naples didn’t have pizza. These formerly pizza-free zones then started making pizza to sell to the GI’s and thus to this day you can find pizza even in places as North as around Lake Como. So pizza is more American in Northern Italy than it is Italian.

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          I mean, not being that popular in the place it was invented doesn’t mean Americans can claim to have invented it which is the subject at hand.

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        very possible for a region to validly claim a certain iteration of a food, even if it originated elsewhere.

        for example, anglo-indian food would not exist without british influence. in the same fashion, american pizza, hamburgers, american-italian beef and US “chinese food”, while not utterly distinct from their precursors, are iterations of the cuisine that would never have come about in their countries of origin.

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          Youre kind of making my point. My point was much more “if you think that’s bad, you should see this” as opposed to “it can’t be done.” For example, the curries from the UK are very different to anything youd get on the Indian sub-continent.

          Claiming apple pie is a outrageous though.

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        They can keep whatever that shit they do in Chicago is though. Nobody else wants credit for that.

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    I’m not going to let a country that thinks spraying more cheese on something makes it better.

    Leave our beige food in a brown sauce with overcooked veg alone.

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    Anglo-Indian cuisine is a product of the British colonization of India and the fusion of British and Indian culinary traditions. This unique blending of flavors and techniques creates a cuisine that is both savory and flavorful, while remaining distinct from traditional Indian or British dishes.

    https://medium.com/@wethechefs.in/a-food-lovers-guide-to-anglo-indian-cuisine-exploring-the-flavors-and-techniques-39bbb806a82d

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      Americans visited the UK during WW2’s rationing and never updated their stereotypes.

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      I am amused by the fact that the word “distinct” sounds similar to “Dis stink!”

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        gross colonizer language, verging on racist. don’t make jokes like this dawg. not funny.

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      If it’s curry it’s Indian, just like American Chinese takeout is American but still Chinese and Pizza is American but still Italian. The flavors derived from those specific cultures to spice up the bland food people were used to. Tea was mostly a Chinese tradition and the Indians stole it to trade with Britain, because it was cheaper.

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        True, but I would argue that American Chinese food is a distinct cuisine in its own right, just as Anglo-Indian is.

        If the argument is that the British Empire didn’t incorporate seasonings and spices into its own traditional cuisine, then I’d argue that none of the European powers did. French cuisine is still undeniably French and spice-less, despite their colonialist history in Africa and the Caribbean.

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      too bad they had to keep it distinct, could have been greatness

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    I can’t seem to find it, but this reminds me of a greentext that’s stuck with me for years. The gist of it is that most of British history can be summed up as sailing around the world looking for something good to eat.

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        That’s not the one I was thinking of, but I’m happy that you posted it as it’s pretty great.

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          Are you sure it’s a greentext and not this old saying “The beauty of their women and the taste of their food make brits the best sailors in the world.”.

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            It definitely parallels that saying but I’m almost positive it was a greentext. Though, given that I can’t find it, I suppose I could be mistaken.

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    Britain conquered the world for spices, then decided they didn’t like any of them.

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    I’m from Portugal, who together with Spain started the so-called “Age Of Discovery” back in the late 14th century and for a long time had sugar plantations in Brasil.

    Not only does the local culinary have an insane variety of cakes and sweets (I suspect that, whilst monks in convents in other countries were finding new ways to brew beer, the ones in Portugal were just inventing new desserts) but most traditional culinary dishes use one more spices that do not grow locally or at least did not originate locally (you also see a similar effect when it comes to other ingredients: for example the frequent use of tomato that originate from the Americas or Oranges that originate from China)

    I also lived in both England and The Netherlands, both countries which were much more successful at trade with and conquest of the “discovered” lands than Portugal, and the local culinary tradition in both is way smaller and blander.

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      The problem with food traditions in the UK is that fuck all grows there due to climate. And all the cool imported stuff was traditionally very expensive, thus only accessible to the rich. Portugal has a much better climate for growing food, so back in the days you could import some seeds, plant them locally and exotic stuff became cheap and available to everyone. Brits couldn’t do that really, so exotic stuff was rare and mere mortals didn’t know about it.

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    We invented one of the world’s most popular cheese, Cheddar, which is actually named after an English village. Also our national dish is Chicken Tikka Masala. I dare you to say we don’t use spices. We invented several varieties of spiced sausage, spiced cakes and fruit bread, even some kinds of spices rum.

    Don’t get me wrong, lots of British cuisine is lackluster for sure, and I don’t think we can compete with the likes of Thailand or Italy. That doesn’t apply to everything we do though, and some of our deserts and cheeses are top tier. Thailand is literally known for diplomacy through food as well, so hardly a fair comparison.

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      Chicken Tikka Masala uses waaaay fewer spices than traditional Indian food. It’s the thing people who don’t like Indian food order in Indian restaurants.

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        It doesn’t actually have less spices as such, it has less chilli and more cream so that it’s less hot. Korma which is legitimately Persian and from the indian subcontinent is more mild than Chicken Tikka Masala. Likewise Makhani and Hydrabaddi are Indian dishes with a comparable amount of cream and hotness. Don’t get me wrong, it’s definitely not a hot curry, but it’s not weaker than some of the things coming from India or Pakistan.

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        fuck. I had a weird allergic reaction the last time I got indian and I haven’t gone back because I don’t take risks with allergies. I miss my malai kofta.

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    Well the popularity of Indian food kind of puts the lie to this. Though I suppose it makes more sense to simply switch to Indian food, rather than to try to tart up the wretched crap that passed for food in the UK before colonialism.

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    Hey, don’t bad mouth salt seasoning! Portugal uses plenty of it (due to using salt preservation in the old days) and i think their food is pretty damn good!

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        As a second gen Indian in the UK, so much of my family’s dishes are based on sauces with tomatoes and chilli, many of them have potato. But none of these are actually native to India, these would have been brought over after the colonialisation of the Americas.