This is a very entertaining and educational article, giving insights into the methods used by thiefs to try and get access to your phone data.

I don’t like Apple but it’s great that their security is so good when it comes to this.

  • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Uhg! It’s outta control.

    Does anybody have ideas for an anti-pick-pocketing solution they’d like to share? I might have to start a community for it. Or maybe you know some forums where designers who may be interested might be hanging out.

    Requirements:

    • retrofit almost any front pants/shorts pocket
    • allow for near instant access (allowing for e.g. snapping a photo before the moment passes)
    • one-handed access
    • mechanical/passive: non-battery operated or fails in “unlocked” mode
    • if not locked to owner’s hand (or say a finger-worn key), makes removal feel obvious
    • automatically resets (resilient & inebriated person approved)
    • ideally works with any phone case
    • relatively inexpensive, and potentially even open source and/or 3D printable

    Lately been imagining something like this, kinda… not really, and with only 2-3 fins:

    so you gotta pull your phone out in a way that stretches the pocket to max width and one fin noticeably rubs against your leg.

    Doesn’t meet all the requirements but also thought about a long and wide strip of cloth sewn at the bottom of a pocket that you could tuck into your waistband.

    Edit: aware of one existing solution but not a huge fan

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      4 months ago

      I use a fanny pack at large events.

      Many have hidden zippers for wallet and phone, and its in front of you so its hard to steal from.

      • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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        4 months ago

        Thanks, phone theft is rampant in nightclubs as well and would be great to solve for the pocket problem.

        Do like these guys (who I think spend a lot of money on marketing):

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          4 months ago

          I got a cheap one from Amazon.

          A key thing a look for are those little nylon pulls on the zipper handles. You can always add them to a zipper as well.

          You can loop the pulls through each other to make it harder to open a zipper. I do this for backpacks since they’re behind me. This is more of a deterrent than a lock though.

          I’ll send a pic after work to describe it. (Although there are actual products but I am cheap).

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      4 months ago

      Also might wanna try to just bring a cheap phone you wouldn’t mind to lose just in case you do manage to lose it. Back up your data so if it does go missing you’ll have the memories.

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        4 months ago

        That’s a great idea! Thank ve thought about carrying a decoy wallet before, but a decoy phone is also a great idea

      • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
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        4 months ago

        Not a bad strategy at all.

        Still, hate to negotiate with terrorists. And bring home potato photos. Instead of $developing-nation-per-capita-GDP phone quality photos.

        Which of course means the thieves will still be tempted! If anti-pickpocketing strategy becomes too successful, they’ll move to violent means, then a cheap phone will be a must.

        • /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
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          4 months ago

          Well phones are generally pretty good for taking pictures and videos. A pixel 4 or something is a pretty decent phone for example.

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      4 months ago

      Mouse trap phone case. It fulfills almost none of the requirements, but it’ll be satisfying when a thief gets snapped.

    • kablammy@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      Velcro sewn to just inside the top of your pocket, so sticking a hand in your pocket makes a loud noise and you can feel it, for any pickpocket to separate the velcro.