• Melt@lemm.ee
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    20 days ago

    They might start sending assassins to threaten their buyers soon

  • cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Even if they gave them away for free, no one would take them for commercial use. Not sure who would be surprised at this ‘news’

    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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      20 days ago

      I mean, they totally would. Do you think the fine folks at American airlines have moral compasses that are orders of magnitude greater than boeing’s?

        • djsoren19@yiffit.net
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          20 days ago

          They have been. The problem is twofold; Airbuses are limited in the U.S., and airlines have increased the rates on those tickets because I guess a working airplane is now considered a premium.

  • egeres@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Interestingly enough, even if it would make sense that boeing is now fully focusing on improving quality, it also makes sense to me that airbus must be ensuring and pushing a lot of quality upgrades as well, it would be perfect marketing for them if no mistakes whatsoever happened on airbus’s planes

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      19 days ago

      And if they didn’t develop the culture of sweeping safety issues under the rug at all levels, they won’t have much trouble keeping ahead because I’m sure that even at the height of Boeing’s safety ignoring, I bet most of the communication still looked like they took safety seriously. Just those in the know realized that they could make themselves look better by faking it and their management wouldn’t care. I’ve gotta assume that some number of them will think the current safety culture overhaul is really trying to send a message of “just be smarter about ignoring safety, don’t let it get to the point where doors fall off mid-flight and we need to kill some whistleblowers”.

  • ForgottenFlux@lemmy.worldOP
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    20 days ago

    Summary:

    • Boeing sales tumbled in May, with only 4 new plane orders and no orders for the 737 Max for the second straight month
    • This compares unfavorably to Airbus, which reported net orders for 15 planes in May
    • Boeing also saw Aerolineas Argentinas cancel an order for a single Max jet
    • Boeing’s stock fell 3% in afternoon trading
    • The poor sales results follow weak figures in April, when Boeing reported 7 sales with none for the Max
    • Boeing hopes the slow pace reflects a lull before the upcoming Farnborough Airshow, but the company is facing issues like the FAA capping 737 production and allegations of production shortcuts and falsified inspection records
    • Despite the recent slow sales, Boeing still has a huge backlog of over 5,600 orders
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      20 days ago

      Despite the recent slow sales, Boeing still has a huge backlog of over 5,600 orders

      I wonder what those orders are? They could be mainly orders for extra bolts.

      • bulwark@lemmy.world
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        20 days ago

        Boeing is the industry in the military-industrial-complex. Commercial jetliners are an ancillary product for them.

        • CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world
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          20 days ago

          No, their airlines are not an ancillary product. They are their main product. According to Boeing’s earnings reports, the commercial aircraft segment of the company made up 56% of total revenue in 2018, 42% in 2019, 27% in 2020, 30% in 2021, 38% in 2022, and 43% in 2023. The rest of their revenue is split between the Defense, Space and Security segment, and the Global Services segment.

          Prior to 2017, the vast majority of the earnings for the whole company came from the Commercial Airplanes segment. Since then, that segment has been operating at a loss. Since 2022, both Defense and Commercial Airplanes have been operating at a loss.

          If you’re curious you can look up Boeing’s 10-k form. Page 56 has the revenue breakdowns.

      • Flipper@feddit.de
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        20 days ago

        Not sure if this is serious. Boeing and Airbus are booked with orders for the next several years. They both could not get a single new order and would have work to do for the next half decade.

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          20 days ago

          Not sure if this is serious.

          if you are really not sure whether this:

          They could be mainly orders for extra bolts.

          is serious, then i recommend to not attempt crossing a street without supervision 😜

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            20 days ago

            its a valid question.

            “Are they orders for whole planes, or for anything boeing might produce such as bolts?”

            Does that simplify it for you? Careful crossing the streets

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          20 days ago

          Several years is an understatement. At current rates of production it will take at least 14 years to fulfill all orders.

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        20 days ago

        Those are orders for the 737. Not parts, newly constructed aircraft. Airbus’s similary sized A320 has a backlog of 7197 according to wikipedia.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    I’m sure the millionaire dipshits who cut corners and killed people are super worried.

    laughs in golden parachute

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    19 days ago

    The 737 Max is a garbage product they crashed and burned with their MCAS woes. They should give up the iconic product line and go all in on selling the safer 777 as its replacement. Yes, its built for a greater range, but the 777 hasn’t been fucked with in terms of fail-deadly systems yet, and its the safest plane Boeing has in its fleet.

    If they do nothing, Airbus will get enough orders to expand its factories and blow through its backlog.

    • PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      19 days ago

      It’s not so much what the Boeing CEO called the issue so much as a technical term for when a non-conforming product gets sold at its planned inspection operation.

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    19 days ago

    Don’t they make a shitload of weapons though? They could probably never make another commercial airliner again and still do just fine.

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    20 days ago

    thalidomide sales took a real header once too. people normally will choose to spend their money on things which will benefit them, and tend not to spend money on the things which will kill them and hurt their business.