Vladimir Putin has demanded that Kyiv cede more land, withdraw troops deeper inside its own country, and drop its Nato bid in order for him to end Russia’s war in Ukraine.
Putin’s fresh ceasefire demands were issued as envoys from more than 90 countries, including Ukraine, convene in Switzerland this weekend to discuss a western-led peace plan. Russia is not invited to the conference and the president’s remarks on Friday were likely to have been timed as a spoiler to that summit.
Speaking with diplomats at the Russian foreign ministry, Putin publicly updated his terms for ending the war in Ukraine for the first time since he launched a full-scale invasion in February 2022, when he demanded regime change in Kyiv and the country’s “demilitarisation”.
The US defence secretary, Lloyd Austin, said Putin was in “no position” to make demands on Ukraine and could end the war he had started “today if he chose to do that.”
The best way to stop that war is to bring Putin in front of the ICC for his war crimes.
Yeah, South Africa will submit the paperwork to ICC any day now…
I’d prefer the option where Putler sticks a hand grenade up his butt
What’s new about it? His demands always were “Give me everything I want or I will take it by force”
Guess the new part is he pinky swears they can keep the Western half of Ukraine. As long as they don’t form alliances and agree to weaken the military protecting the Western half…
Hey here’s an idea: instead of telling Putin to end the war himself, how bout if NATO DOES THE ONE FUCKING JOB IT WAS CREATED TO DO?
Which is?
Protect a member nation from invasion. So I’m not sure how they can help in this instance.
They’re doing the best they can with the little amount of rope they have.
You realize that Nato is a defense alliance, dedicated to protecting other member states. Ukraine is NOT a member of Nato. And cannot currently join Nato, because only a country not at war can join.
It has been said that the literal minute this war ends, Ukraines application is all but already passed. But that can’t happen until they end the war. Which means either Putin loses, and goes home, Putin takes all of Ukraine 100% defeated and absorbed into russia, or Ukraine wins the war on their terms.
Until then, Nato is mostly bound to stay out of foreign affairs by their own mission statement
Exactly this. People are so deluded that NATO aren’t a world police force and isn’t just a pact to protect its members is unreal
Then they are fucking morons and deserve the nukes. Only feckless pussies sit there and watch the imperial force roll over a country and say “welp, cant do anything about it because they’re not our buddies!” These motherfuckers will break all kinds of “regulations” if some billionaire asks for it, so I’m not buying it. “Ukraine can join after the war” is sheer fucking insanity.
World War is not the solution you think it is
Tell me you know nothing about nuclear warfare without saying you don’t know nothing about nuclear warfare.
Either that or you really want to see the whole earth in ashes.
No, I fully understand. I just dont act like a weak, pathetic Putin apologist telling Ukraine to fuck off when they know damn well that it doesnt stop with Ukraine. I swear to fucking Cthulhu the entire orld has turned into a bunch of dormat pussies just waiting to get shived into gas chanbers.
Fuck
Yeah, but you do understand, that nuking can’t be a solution?
I didnt say it was a solution; I’m saying it is the expected outcome for doormats.
Feel free to join Ukraine as a voluntary fighter. Many have done so. Or keep spouting shit here about others. Put your money where your mouth is, Sir Feckless.
Aaaawwww arent you just adorable!
Any response other than “I already have” or “I donate resources” paints you as an armchair hypocrite who doesn’t have the credentials to understand, let alone have an opinion about this conflict.
You my friend, are the one who is adorable.
Can’t do anything? Where have you been for the past 2 years? The west has lead the most massive material aid program since world war 2
Let’s all send Angela Merkel a big flaming poop basket for ensuring that didn’t happen when they had the chance.
I know so little about her work as germanys chancler, that I have no ability to have an opinion of her.
The reality is that both sides are laying out unrealistic terms for surrender right now… and that’s fine. The start of a negotiation is always to start with a stated position and go from there. This war will end at the negotiation table… at least we hope it does becuase unconditional surrender won’t come from Russia, but it could come from Ukraine.
The real question is have both sides suffered enough for a negotiated end to this war? Look, it sucks, but that’s the truth of it. It would be good to see an end to the fighting and dying in Ukraine. Wars suck. The only side winning in this war is the US. They/we spend a pittance of money and watch Russia burn their future generation, military reputation, and global standing to the ground. That’s the #2 political opponent the US has in the world, and it’s acting as a great example for to show China (the #1) why it should behave itself over Taiwan. Win win!
But wars suck. It’s easy to sit on the sidelines, but there a lots of people fighting and dying over there who have nothing to do with make the decisions for war. Yes Putin’s demands are ridiculous, but so are Ukraine’s. That’s fine. Put them in a room and hopefully they can figure out way to end the killing that’s in between the two.
Putin, please stop this war without demands.
They don’t want it to stop. It’s not the first time they’re asked to stop it
Yes, but now their propaganda machine can say that they want to stop the war.
As far as I can tell, that’s de rigeur for these now. It’s largely the same on both sides in the other war too.
I think international pressure needs to be brought to bear. I can appreciate that the end of the war will likely require unpopular concessions. But I think humanitarian concerns as well as the need to halt the advance of authoritarian nationalism around the world requires an end to the two big wars.
If we can’t find an end, the US should withdraw from both. Our role is prolonging them.
The sovereign government in Ukraine asks for our help in their defense. Why should we not?
This is a good question.
I think I would support their defense more assertively if I was presented with a compelling case of what the options are, and what outcomes each might lead to.
Currently, I feel like I’m only really presented with the demand that we continue to send enough weapons with restrictions that we keep the war going, as a way to weaken Russia geopolitically and to give money to the military industrial complex without a clear plan beyond that, or any sign that a victory is on its way. And then eventually, Biden loses in part because his foreign popular is broadly unpopular, and most likely Trump cuts off all aid and the Russia conquers Ukraine.
I don’t see a coherent strategy to improve Ukraine’s negotiating position from where it is. Just a lot of jingoism. If there’s an actual plan to win, lay it out. Otherwise, it feels like the alternative is just the same outcomes currently on the table (or worse), but after more people are dead.
Hi Dimitri 👋🏼
Can I come to your house and start taking your things and say you’re prolonging the suffering if you try to stop me, and we should just stop and go our separate ways (after I take a few more things)?
I don’t really get how this analogy is useful. I’m not of the opinion that anything Russia is doing is justifiable or just.
Putin’s was of aggression is very bad. We agree on that.
Yeah you relayed your humanitarian concerns
Lots of passive voice here. Ukraine is fighting off an existential threat from a historically genocidal state. All Putin has to do is stop issuing orders and the war ends right this second.
Hi Ukraine, we understand you didn’t want to immediately surrender your lands and rights. That’s very difficult, we realize. To address your concerns, we’re now offering an installment plan.
I hope to see him get bayoneted up the arse.
His worst fear is to end up like Gaddafi.
It is incumbent upon all of us to make that happen.
So if the same applies to Russia Putin is okay with a foreign country invading Russia based on lies, capturing territory, targeting and murdering civilians and kidnapping children, violating treaties, and they would accept a ceasefire with the invader keeping everything they currently hold to regroup for another assault? Get the fuck out of here
“You give up, do as I say and I take everything” is not a peace negotiation. Its a renewal of his declaration of war.
It’s like a house squatter demanding the house owner to leave to end the conflict.
Putin, just leave…
I heard US bragged about bunker-penetrating rockets. Do they still have them?
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If he actually did this from a position of power, one might understand this. But in the here and now, it is totally ridiculous.
This fuckin guy! He should do stand-up or clown school.
Meanwhile real stand-up comedian: when to laugh?
I know a very easy way for the war to end right now, Vlad.
You order your troops to leave Ukraine.
War over.
He most likely achieves internal goals through external means
