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I know Hispanic, that came to the usa illegally and they hate immigrants. It’s mind boggling… Selfishness is what it is.
My dad is the same. He arrived illegally in the 70s, got a factory job with pension, got his citizenship, and now supports tighter immigration control. He ate the fox news propaganda about the caravans and criminality. We troll him by not speaking Spanish to him and demand he speak “American”- he gets so mad when Spanish is not an option at a business.
Same with my Filipino dad who as a chef used hundreds of Mexican workers. When I was in grade school living in south Florida all the Brazilian kids would call all the other South American kids Mexicans.
And you know they’re in favor of mass deportations until it impacts their family members that are still undocumented. They just want other people’s family to be deported. It’s like all those stories that came out about white Trump voters who were upset about their undocumented spouse or their favorite restaurant owner or whoever being deported.
A few years ago i saw a guy on reddit who was hispanic and he signed all his posts with “hispanics for trump”
I was sure that it was a troll or bot or something. For the first time ever i went through a guys comment history because i was sure that when i go a few month back, it’s gonna be russian or something. Nope, seemed like a genuine normal ass hispanic dude who hated immigrants
Mass deportations of whom? How about a mass deportation of Republicans?
There’s a thing called illegal immigration, or people who immigrated illegally.
But Illegal immigrants aren’t a thing.
And it looks like OP didn’t just copy the headline or article:
Headline:
Majority of Hispanics Now Favor Mass Deportation
Article:
A recent poll found that a majority of Hispanic people favor the mass deportation of undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. illegally.
The CBS News/YouGov poll found that a majority of registered voters overall (62 percent) would favor the government starting “a new national program to deport all undocumented immigrants currently living in the U.S. illegally.” Thirty-eight percent said they would oppose it.
So OP, can you edit your title to remove the racially loaded language?
If you insist.
Thanks!
Would you mind breaking down the difference between people who immigrated illegally and illegal immigrants? I’m asking this in good faith because the online discourse has gotten so toxic that I’d like to be able to flag it when I see it.
My current understanding is that the latter language is dehumanising by describing the person to be illegal in their existence. Usually we would say that someone has done something illegal, not that they themselves are illegal.
But to those with a short attention span the difference can appear academic.
My current understanding is that the latter language is dehumanising by describing the person to be illegal in their existence. Usually we would say that someone has done something illegal, not that they themselves are illegal.
Yep.
In general you want to describe people by adjectives and not label them as nouns ouns.
Sometimes it’s different because the group wants to be called a noun (Christians) but that was well after they became the majority in Europe and was still used to shit minorities.
This poll is weighted toward older conservatives. Of course the answer is going to be what a conservative thinks. Lots of polls are doing this now, even though older conservatives are not the largest group.
There’s a huge difference between an older conservative Cuban man in Florida and a younger Mexican woman in LA.
I wonder how mass deportations would actually work. To me it sounds like seeking out undocumented or potentially undocumented people and detaining them until they are deported or can prove a legal status. It sounds like rounding people up based on some sort of identifying factor. How many people will get detained who shouldn’t be?
The issue is that once the government has the infrastructure and networks to round folks up en masse, they can round groups of folk up en masse. That net will never be precise, so plenty of folks will get pulled in who shouldn’t. That net can also be directed where-ever the powers that be decide, which is a real threat to liberty and justice for all.
And that’s before we get to the part the ethics and issues behind our immigration policy in the US.
The original poll, for those curious: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/cbsnews_20240609_1.pdf
5. If the 2024 presidential election were being held today between Joe Biden, the Democrat, and Donald Trump, the Republican, who would you vote for?
Among likely voters, including those leaning toward Biden or Trump
Joe Biden . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49%
Donald Trump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50%
Someone else/third party . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1%
Not sure . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0%
The 2-party state lives on.
How can the support for Not Sure be so low? He’s the smartest man to exist, and he solved the water crisis!
I’d have voted Third Party. Shame they’re Someone Else’s VP
Notably, the poll found that mass deportation was popular with Hispanics, with 53 percent saying they would favor such a program and 47 percent saying they would oppose it. White people were more supportive of mass deportations, with 67 percent saying they would back the program, and 33 percent saying they would oppose it. Among Black people, it was 47 percent in favor and 53 percent opposed.
