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lol cry more, russia
What an unfortunate thing to happen on free dozen eggs night.
The people here praising the Houthis seem to think they knew who they were attacking rather than just seeing a ship pass by and attacking it, which is what they actually do.
And in general I didn’t expect to see praise for a group that has “A Curse Upon the Jews” as part of their official slogan.
There are certain people on Lemmy who support the Houthis because they claim what they are doing supports Gaza. It does not. They aren’t stopping Israel from doing anything by doing this… but there are people here who have this ridiculous “enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are” attitude which baffles me. The Houthis are awful. They have killed a huge number of people, including children, just like Israel. But hey, they’re declared enemies of Israel, so we can just overlook that little issue.
I’ve seen people even praise theocracies like Iran for the same reason.
It’s ridiculous.
It does not.
One of Israel’s ports is going bankrupt as a direct result of the Houthi blockade. That might not be preventing Gazans from being murdered but it’s fucking something which is more than 99% of the world is doing.
The Houthis aren’t a perfect org, but US imperialism is the greater evil by far, and everyone who opposes it deserves at least critical support.
Part of the comment you responded to:
but there are people here who have this ridiculous “enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are”
Thank you for proving my point.
Part of the comment you responded to:
One of Israel’s ports is going bankrupt as a direct result of the Houthi blockade.
The Houthis are accomplishing something, and their real goals align with defeating the world’s hegemonic evil.
You agreed that it didn’t help Gazans. Which was my point. They claim they are helping Gazans. They are not.
And, again, they do the exact same things Israel is doing- Killing thousands of people including children. You are ignoring that, which I also said that people like yourself do.
One mass murdering group is good to you because you don’t like a different mass murdering group and neither do they. That’s some bullshit reasoning if the reason you don’t like the latter group is because of all the murder.
Hurting Israel’s economy punishes them for hurting Gazans, even if it doesn’t directly stop them.
You seem to be under the impression that I don’t like political violence on principal. Not the case. I don’t like political violence that is on the side of perpetuating global empire, and I like political violence that is opposed to it. What you’re doing, by flattening all political violence into just “violence bad”, is a rhetorical tactic that promotes the status quo by demonizing all groups that fight against it.
The Houthis are fighting against the Saudi-backed puppet regime in North Yemen. They are not going to someone else’s country, ethnically cleansing the group that’s already there, and laying claim to it. They are enforcing a naval blockade in order to economically punish a country that is committing genocide, they are not perpetuating one themselves.
“enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are” attitude
See also: “America bad, therefore Russia good”
Will be interesting how this will affect Russia’s uninsured/self insured vessels going forward. As they’ve been cut off from all maritime insurers with the sanctions, they will have to cover this one themselves. It will hurt.
Good.
Awww but I thought Russia and China were their friend? Did they finally realize the neo-USSR power bloc is an equally uncaring imperialistic resource extractor that only gave a shit because the Houthis were going to be inconvenient for the US?
Houthis are Shia and their friends are Iran and Hezbollah. Russia is an unreliable transactional partner of their friends, and also Russia is doing a lot of licking up to Turks and Sunni terrorists.
So - they know the situation very well.
Right, but they previously had an active diplomatic agreement allowing any Russia or China affiliated ships to pass untouched..
Clearly something has changed since then, something that makes them think receiving any Russian support (even indirectly) is not worth it.
Perhaps Russia broke some other agreement and they responded.
uncrewed surface vessel
Wait, are drone oil tankers a thing now?
Not that I’m aware of. The uncrewed surface vessel in this case was one of the attacking vessels.
The Houthis launched an uncrewed surface vessel attacking MT Chios Lion, a Liberian-flagged, Marshall Islands-owned, Greek-operated crude oil tanker, according to a statement put out by the United States Military’s Central Command on Tuesday.
No, the attack vessel was the drone
