…according to a Twitter post by the Chief Informational Security Officer of Grand Canyon Education.

So, does anyone else find it odd that the file that caused everything CrowdStrike to freak out, C-00000291-
00000000-00000032.sys was 42KB of blank/null values, while the replacement file C-00000291-00000000-
00000.033.sys was 35KB and looked like a normal, if not obfuscated sys/.conf file?

Also, apparently CrowdStrike had at least 5 hours to work on the problem between the time it was discovered and the time it was fixed.

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    Every affected company should be extremely thankful that this was an accidental bug, because if crowdstrike gets hacked, it means the bad actors could basically ransom I don’t know how many millions of computers overnight

    Not to mention that crowdstrike will now be a massive target from hackers trying to do exactly this

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        You mean it’s going to cost corporations a pretty penny. Which means they’ll pass those “costs of operation” on to the rest of us. Fuck.

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          You did not just fall out of a coconut tree. You exist in a context of all that came before you.

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          well, the world does include the rest of us.

          and its not just opeerational costs. what happens when an outage lasts 3+ days and affects all communication and travel? thats another massive shock to the system.

          they come faster and faster.

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      I’d assume state (or other serious) actors already know about these companies.

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      Third parties being able to push updates to production machines without being tested first is giant red flag for me. We’re human … we fuck up. I understand that. But that’s why you test things first.

      I don’t trust myself without double checking, so why would we completely trust a third party so completely.

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        That one turns out to have been largely Microsoft’s fault for repeatedly ignoring warnings of a severe vulnerability relating to Active Directory. Microsoft were warned about it, acknowledged it and ignored it for years until it got used in the Solar Winds hack.

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      This is why I openly advocate for a diverse ecosystems of services, so not everyone is affected if the biggest gets targeted.

      But unfortunately, capitalism favors only the frontrunner and everyone else can go spin, and we aren’t getting rid of capitalism anytime soon.

      So basically, it is inevitable that crowdstrike WILL be hacked, and the next time will be much much worse.

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        Years ago I read an study about insurance companies and diversification of assets in Brazil. By regulation, an individual insurance company need to have a diversified investment portfolio, but the insurance market as a whole not, so the diversification of every individual company, as a whole all the insurance market was exposed and the researchers found, iirc, like 3 banks that if they fail can they cause a chain reaction that would take out the entire insurance market.

        Don’t know why, but your comment made me remind of that.

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          That’s kind of fascinating, never considered what the results of that kind of regulation can bring without anyone even noticing it at the time. Thanks for a good reading topic for lunch!

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        Properly regulated capitalism breaks up monopolies so new players can enter the market. What you’re seeing is dysfunctional capitalism - an economy of monopolies.

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          Sorry no, capitalism is working exactly as intended. Concentration of wealth breaks regulation with unlimited political donations.

          You call it unregulated, but that is the natural trend for when the only acceptable goal is the greater accumulation of wealth. There comes a time when that wealth is financially best spent buying politicians.

          Until there are inherent mechanisms within capitalism to prevent special interest money from pushing policy and direct regulatory capture, capitalism will ALWAYS trend to deregulation.

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            If you start regulating capitalism, thats called something else. That would be saying that the markets can not regulate by themselves, and proving as a myth one of the basics of capitalism.

            So I, as well, think capitalism is working as intended. and sure is based on greed.

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              Something else, as in what? As long as the means of production is privately owned for profit, it’s capitalism.

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            You call it unregulated, but that is the natural trend for when the only acceptable goal is the greater accumulation of wealth.

            Yes…obviously.

            And that IS dysfunctional capitalism.

            Until there are inherent mechanisms within capitalism to prevent special interest money from pushing policy and direct regulatory capture

            That’s exactly what I’m saying, dude.

            This is NOT capitalism working as intended. This is broken capitalism. Runaway capitalism. Corrupt capitalism.

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              Its like saying we just need good kings, no ids a bad system. Any capitalist system will devolve in corruption and monopoly. No regulations can survive the unavailable regulatory capture and corruption.

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      On Monday I will once again be raising the point of not automatically updating software. Just because it’s being updated does not mean it’s better and does not mean we should be running it on production servers.

      Of course they won’t listen to me but at least it’s been brought up.

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        I’m thought it was a security definition download; as in, there’s nothing short of not connecting to the Internet that you can do about it.

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          Well I haven’t looked into it for this piece of software but essentially you can prevent automatic updates from applying to the network. Usually because the network is behind a firewall that you can use to block the update until you decide that you like it.

          Also a lot of companies recognize that businesses like to check updates and so have more streamlined ways of doing it. For instance Apple have a whole dedicated update system for iOS devices that only businesses have access to where you can decide you don’t want the latest iOS and it’s easy you just don’t enable it and it doesn’t happen.

          Regardless of the method, what should happen is you should download the update to a few testing computers (preferably also physically isolated from the main network) and run some basic checks to see if it works. In this case the testing computers would have blue screened instantly, and you would have known that this is not an update that you want on your system. Although usually requires a little bit more investigation to determine problems.

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            It makes me so fuckdamn angry that people make this assumption.

            This Crowdstrike update was NOT pausable. You cannot disable updates without disabling the service as they get fingerprint files nearly every day.

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        Thank God someone else said it. I was constantly in an existential battle with IT at my last job when they were constantly forcing updates, many of which did actually break systems we rely on because Apple loves introducing breaking changes in OS updates (like completely fucking up how dynamic libraries work).

        Updates should be vetted. It’s a pain in the ass to do because companies never provide an easy way to rollback, but this really should be standard practice.

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          You can use AirWatch to deal with Apple devices. Although it is a clunky program it does at least give you the ability to roll things back.

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      I’ve got a feeling crowdstrike won’t be as grand of target anymore. They’re sure to lose a lot of clients…ateast until they spin up a new name and erease all traces of “cdowdstrike”.

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        That trick doesn’t work for B2B as organizations tend to do their research before buying. Consumers tend not to.