I’m not from the US, so I’m curious why Americans still wants him back. I always see him as a bad mouthed guy and was worse when he lost in 2020. But feel free to change my mind. This question is also for non-trump supporters who can think of one thing (if you can) on why he’s good for the top position.

  • SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
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    4 months ago

    I’ve not been following the Ukrainian war recently, but wouldn’t the US surrendering Ukraine result in the erasure and eradication of Ukrainian culture. Which would likely result in more deaths than the war itself?

    • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
      16·
      4 months ago

      but wouldn’t the US surrendering Ukraine result in the erasure and eradication of Ukrainian culture.

      Why would it? Trump did not promise to “surrender Ukraine”, he promised to force both sides to negotiate and end the war. I don’t think those negotiations would include whole Ukraine becoming Russia, do you think so? Most likely scenario is that the current front lines become the new borders, and most of the lost territories (Lugansk, Doneck, Crimea) don’t really have " Ukrainian culture" they are mostly Russian speaking. It’s a little bit different with Kherson and Zaporizhzhya but they still don’t have nearly as much “Ukrainian culture” as western Ukraine.

      • SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
        3·
        4 months ago

        The US doesn’t have the ability and/or willingness to force Russia to comply with any of their demands. Therefore any deal has to be in agreement with the Russian state, which means their war demands. That means either the US pulls military support and Ukraine are unable to fight back, or the talks go nowhere and nothing really changes. There is no motivation for Russia to accept the current front lines.

        … Although, like I said, my knowledge of this conflict is a little spotty - someone in the audience let me know if my read of the situation is correct.

        • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
          23·
          4 months ago

          There is no motivation for Russia to accept the current front lines.

          I don’t think this is correct…
          We now know the details of the peace talks (from Ukrainian sources!) that started right at the beginning of the war, where Russia was ready to retreat to pre-war (so 2022) borders.
          So I’m actually reasonably sure that Russia would absolutely accept the current front-lines.
          The only reason there is no peace talks happening, is because Zelensky’s demands are absolutely clownish (seriously, I don’t know a better word here) - “give us back all the territories you captured, including Crimea, and then we will be ready to talk”.