I’m not from the US, so I’m curious why Americans still wants him back. I always see him as a bad mouthed guy and was worse when he lost in 2020. But feel free to change my mind. This question is also for non-trump supporters who can think of one thing (if you can) on why he’s good for the top position.

  • dan1101@lemm.ee
    4·
    4 months ago

    I guarantee you it will be another one of those deals where Ukraine gives up their land to Russia, and those deals are pointless because Ukraine won’t accept them.

    • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
      16·
      4 months ago

      What do you mean Ukraine won’t accept them?
      Trump’s promise was to

      • Tell Putin that if he refuses to negotiate they will send much more weapons to Ukraine (isn’t that what you want btw?).
      • Tell Zelensky that if he refuses to negotiate they will stop all weapon supplies.

      If there won’t be weapon supplies, Zelensky will finally be forced to accept peace. Additionally he will lose his only reason for staying in power, and there will finally be elections in Ukraine.

      • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        4 months ago

        Trump’s promise

        If you believe anything that shitbird says, everything else you think or say is automatically invalidated.

        • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
          33·
          4 months ago

          Well, first of all no - it’s a fallacy and doesn’t work like that ;)

          Secondly, if there are two parties, and you distrust both, but first party has been supporting war for two years and says that they will continue to do so, and the second party says they will stop it - how is it not the logical choice to support the second party (assuming you are actually affected by the war and so want it to end)?

          • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            4 months ago

            And like I said, that guy lies nonstop. If you believe anything he says, you’re the sucker. It doesn’t matter if he says he will stop a war, or give everyone a million bucks, or turn straw into gold. The guy is a conman and a liar, and you seem to be falling for it. There’s nothing else to say here, you’re either a troll or a fool, or both. I say good day.

            • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
              24·
              4 months ago

              You seem to have trouble understanding my question :(

              Let me rephrase it in that case - whom should I support if I want war to end?
              It’s definitely not Dems though, as they will continue the war just like they were doing this whole time.

              In case you are not willing to answer it, good day to you as well :)

              • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works
                2·
                4 months ago

                The answer is neither of them probably, though I think Kamala has a chance of ending it. She’s less hawkish and further left than Biden. Trump only serves himself and his rich buddies, who happen to own defense and oil companies. So there is no way he would end the war.

                But I also think you’re not asking this question in good faith. So yeah I guess we’re done here.