• neidu2@feddit.nl
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    3 months ago

    “That sounds like sovereign citizen stuff, and that’s just weird” 😂

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    3 months ago

    So funny to arrest him for failure to appear when he’s there but he says he is not there 😂😂😂

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    3 months ago

    Why would they try to get a document notarized by the state if they don’t believe in the validity of the state?

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      My understanding of this sovcit insanity is that the “strawman” is a legal entity that the government uses as their placeholder. The strawman is a US citizen and all that comes with it, but the actual person is not. They believe that the rules do not apply to them because it is only the strawman that is bound by laws and rules, and not their actual self.

      A lot of this loonacy revolves around the belief that they are legally separated from their strawman, and use all sorts of forms, “rules”, and excuses to “prove” this.

      Interesting video on the subject by Munecat: https://youtu.be/KcxZFmKrxR8

      EDIT: No edits! It stays as it stands!

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          I reject your English and substitute my own. I will force the language to make sense over time.

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        Somebody who isn’t a sovcit had to give them the name Strawman for that definition right? It’s such a rhetorically perfect joke of a name.

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    It seems like there are enough of these people that a unscrupulous lawyer could really fill the niche and make a lot of money. “Yes, just sign over power of attorney to me and I can represent your strawman to sever that from your court appearance.”

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        Then it’s time to campaign for judge - separate that pesky straw man “bat” stuff from the Soviet entity providing legal assistance for a fee

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        There’s an interesting take… maybe sovcits are not really wrong-headed fundamentalist morons. Maybe they are just desperate enough that it makes as much sense as the alternative. In this economy, can any of us really afford not to try sovcit life?

        /s (I think)

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          I don’t know about the “/s”, this makes way more sense than it should.

          In this case, weee only reading about driving without a license but most of these stories have them going looney tunes ofpver much bigger obstacles in life.

          At the risk of being downvoted to hell: child support. Regardless of what mistakes you made to get there, child support can be very expensive. If you get behind, it can very quickly seem insurmountable. I look at some news stories about people being arrested for not paying it, but it seems like they always owe an insane amount that there’s just no way they can catch up with. Maybe you don’t have sympathy for these people, and that’s ok, but this is ordinary life where a huge cost can be imposed on someone who doesn’t think they owe it. I understand the amount is calculated based on actual income, so it ought to be bearable, but it’s also large enough it only takes a few months behind before it may seem like an impossible mountain. I can see people being desperate. I can see them willing to try anything, once they e dig themselves in too deep