From a knowledge standpoint, I simply don’t know enough about nutrition to understand whether or not humans can be ‘maximally healthy’ on a vegetarian or vegan or pescatarian or w/e diet.
According to science, a whole-food, plant-based diet is basically the healthiest way to eat. You would need to supplement vitamin B12, but that’s it (and it’s very easy to do that). So from a health perspective, there is really no point against a vegan diet.
If you are interested in the morality of meat / veganism I highly recommend the debate videos by Ed Winters on Youtube where he talks to people about why they’re not vegan and it’s very respectful and also insightful. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdqAyFhWL2s (some are way more controversial though, this guy is already quite “vegan-positive”, still an interesting discussion)
He goes to elite universities and interviews people his age. Where the hell do you think he should go to find more equal debate partners? Maybe he just has the better arguments?
I disagree. Everyone who eats meat should be able to reflect on that fact and if you can’t defend your behavior in a debate, maybe you should change it.
if you can’t defend your behavior in a debate, maybe you should change it.
abushed adolescents who have not developed a debate around a topic may not be capable of defending their behavior in a debate at the drop of a hat, but they have not prepared for such a circumstance. on the otherhand, this charlatan shows up with a pocketful of cheap rhetorical tricks and makes them look foolish for money.
That is true, but there are statistical trends that you can observe in scientific studies. How else would you rate how healthy something is? Just because some person is allergic to nuts doesn’t mean they’re not generally a healthy snack.
According to science, a whole-food, plant-based diet is basically the healthiest way to eat. You would need to supplement vitamin B12, but that’s it (and it’s very easy to do that). So from a health perspective, there is really no point against a vegan diet.
If you are interested in the morality of meat / veganism I highly recommend the debate videos by Ed Winters on Youtube where he talks to people about why they’re not vegan and it’s very respectful and also insightful. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdqAyFhWL2s (some are way more controversial though, this guy is already quite “vegan-positive”, still an interesting discussion)
Thanks for the recommendation.
those aren’t debates, they are grandstanding. he picks on adolescents still in school and tries to make them look foolish for clicks.
He goes to elite universities and interviews people his age. Where the hell do you think he should go to find more equal debate partners? Maybe he just has the better arguments?
he should invite capable people familiar with the topic to prepare for the engagement
I disagree. Everyone who eats meat should be able to reflect on that fact and if you can’t defend your behavior in a debate, maybe you should change it.
abushed adolescents who have not developed a debate around a topic may not be capable of defending their behavior in a debate at the drop of a hat, but they have not prepared for such a circumstance. on the otherhand, this charlatan shows up with a pocketful of cheap rhetorical tricks and makes them look foolish for money.
two years ago, he was a guest lecturer teaching a course on media at harvard. the power imbalance alone makes the production of that video immoral.
there is no single answer that fits everyone universally.
General fact:
People need a specific set and amount of nutrients to survive.
Specifics:
Amount and composition is influenced by individual factors.
Various nutrient sources exist and you can cover all your required nutrients from non-animal sources if you want to.
some people might be able to, but even ideologically committed, educated people with common health conditions have found it difficult.
That is true, but there are statistical trends that you can observe in scientific studies. How else would you rate how healthy something is? Just because some person is allergic to nuts doesn’t mean they’re not generally a healthy snack.