cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/38852281

Figures published by the Welsh Government show casualty reductions as follows for the period January to March 2024, in comparison with January to March 2023:

All severities at all speeds: 811 (2024); 4348 (2023);

20mph. All severities: 300 (2024); 662 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 63 (2024); 144 (2023)

Slightly injured: 237 (2024); 518 (2023)

30mph. All severities: 77 (2024); 1522 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 15 (2024); 343 (2023)

Slightly injured: 62 (2024); 1179 (2023)

40mph. All severities: 74 (2024); 397 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 20 (2024); 98 (2023)

Slightly injured: 54 (2024); 299 (2023)

50mph. All severities: 94 (2024); 273 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 23 (2024); 67 (2023)

Slightly injured: 71(2024); 206 (2023)

60mph. All severities: 214 (2024); 1235 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 71 (2024); 401 (2023)

Slightly injured: 143 (2024); 834 (2023)

70mph. All severities: 52 (2024); 259 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 12 (2024); 73 (2023)

Slightly injured: 40 (2024); 186 (2023)

  • Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com
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    That is what the group was arguing. Turns out, if they didn’t cherrypick data, there are no actualized gains.

    Basically, they made inconvenient changes promising lower pollution, cost savings, and fewer deaths, but it hasn’t happened.

    Now they are calling out the government.

    Edit: I know you guys like to downvote to oblivion what you don’t want to hear, but what I said is literally right there in the article OP posted.

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      This article does NOT say what you claim it does. Rather, it quotes someone making those claims, which are in part subjective interpretations. The quotes come from a biased individual. The validity of those claims is not verified by the article. No other party has the opportunity to respond to the claims in the article and the reporter has not provided their own fact checking.

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        Yes it quotes someone, perhaps with bias, making claims countering a special interest group, perhaps with bias, also making claims.

        The conflict here is in the interpretation of data and the accusation of government sampling data to support a desired outcome.

        The group protesting is asking for better explanation and data transparency: without which conclusions will always remain “subjective interpretations”.

        As for reporter fact checking and verifying claims, I can only work with what is written. Dismiss the author and article in its entirety if you wish.

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      Going a little bit slower in residential areas is a tiny inconvenience for drivers and makes a big difference to residents, who absolutely have less noise and pollution. It’s a lot more pleasant for other road users too. The KSI figures are only one reason for the change.

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        1 month ago

        You’d expect this, but my old boomer neighborhood was against it because it inconvenienced them.

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          You mean the pensioners that barely leave their house don’t want to be inconvenienced? I’m shocked!

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        “Unfortunately, the data provided is incomplete making it impossible to compare like with like. However, what the data provided does highlight is an increase in deaths and serious injuries across all roads combined for the first six months of available data. In Q4 (Quarter 4) 2022/2023 there was an increase of six deaths and 26 serious injuries and in Q1 2023/24 there was no decrease in deaths and an increase of 10 serious injuries”

        According to the article, there is perhaps an increase in injury numbers.