Wasn’t there a licensing issue with jpeg xl for using Microsoft’s some sort of algo?
No, there aren’t any licensing issues with JPEG-XL.
Then it’s absolutely soul-crushing to see Google abuse it’s market dominance like that…
bring back bmp and tiff cowards
PCX or nothin’
I liked TARGA, personally…
My game engine has TARGA as an option, and will be super important once I finish my own data package format using a dictionary-based zstd algorithm.
as a .png elitist i see this as a good thing.
As an EXR elitist I deeply resent Google’s blatant sabotage of JXL.
(And also laugh at the PNG elitists, as is custom.)
Pretty much sums it up. JPEGXL could’ve been the standard by now if Google would stop kneecapping it in favor of its own tech, now we’re stuck in an awkward position where neither of them are getting as much traction because nobody can decide on which to focus on.
Also, while Safari does support AVIF, there are some features it doesn’t support like moving images, so we have to wait on that too… AVIF isn’t bad, but it doesn’t matter if it takes another 5+ years to get global support for a new image format…
TL:DW, JPEG is getting old in the tooth, which prompted the creation of JPEG XL, which is a fairly future-proof new compression standard that can compress images to the same file size or smaller than regular JPEG while having massively higher quality.
However, JPEG XL support was removed from Google Chrome based browsers in favor of AVIF, a standalone image compression derived from the AV1 video compression codec that is decidedly not future-proof, having some hard-coded limitations, as well as missing some very nice to have features that JPEG XL offers such as progressive image loading and lower hardware requirements. The result of this is that JPEG XL adoption will be severely hamstrung by Google’s decision, which is ultimately pretty lame.
Why wasn’t PNG enough to replace jpeg?
not enough elitists
PNG is a lossless format, and hence results in fairly large file sized compared to compressed formats, so they’re solving different issues.
JPEG XL is capable of being either lossy or lossless, so it sorta replaces both JPEG and PNG
Does jpegxl work on firefox?
Look it’s all actually about re-encumberancing image file formats back into corporate controlled patented formats. If we would collectively just spend time and money and development resources expanding and improving PNG and gif formats that are no longer patent encumbered, we’d all live happily ever after.
JPEG-XL is in no way patent encumbered. Neither is AVIF. I don’t know what you’re talking about
https://encode.su/threads/3863-RANS-Microsoft-wins-data-encoding-patent
https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/17/microsoft_ans_patent/
https://avifstudio.com/blogs/faq/avif-patents/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26910515
https://aomedia.org/press releases/the-alliance-for-open-media-statement/
If AVIF was not patent encumbered, AOMedia would not need to have a Patent License to allow open source use.
A majority of the most recent standards are effectively cabal esque private groups of Corporations that hold patents that on the underlying technology and then license the patents among each other as part of the standards org and throw a license bone towards open source. That can all be undone by the patent holders at their whim.
There’s no need to create a standard format that’s patent encumbered especially if they don’t ever intend to monetize that paten,t. It’s all about maintaining control of intellectual property and especially who was allowed and when they are allowed to profit from the standards.
Royalty-free blanket patent licensing is compatible with Free Software and should be considered the same as being unpatented. Even if it’s conditioned on a grant of reciprocality. It’s only when patent holders start demanding money (or worse, withholding licenses altogether) that it becomes a problem
its royalty free and has an open source implementation, what more could you want?
No patent encumbrance. That was the entire point.
Clawing control of patent infected media standards is far more important for a healthy open internet built on open standards that is not subject to the whims and controls of capital investment groups eating up companies to exert control of the entire technology standards pipeline.
This is why Google keeps getting caught up in monopoly lawsuits.
Modern Google is becoming the Microsoft of the 90s
Which is funny and said because Microsoft is also the Microsoft of the 90s.
And they’ll make eleventy bajillion dollars in the meantime, plenty of money to pay their inevitable punitive “fines.”
I tried JPEG XL and it didn’t even make my files extra large. It actually made them SMALLER.
False advertising.
I think you took the wrong enlargement pill.
Just set the pills to wumbo.
Google’s handling of jxl makes a lot more sense after the jpegli announcement. It’s apparent now that they declined to support jxl in favor of cloning many of jxl’s features in a format they control.
Why was it not included? AVIF creator influence bias. It’s a good story.
WHY IS NO ONE STANDING UP FOR GIF?!
I don’t know, because it sucks and has zero benefits over PNG?
Especially after animated pngs were developed but nobody wanted to support those so we’re stuck with gifs that are actually mp4s or webms.
Strictly-speaking, last time I took a serious look at this, which was quite some years back, it was possible to make very small GIFs that were smaller than very small PNGs.
That used to be more significant back when “web bugs” – one-pixel, transparent images – were a popular mechanism to try to track users. I don’t know if that’s still a popular tactic these days.
It is, they are called canvas now. I recommend Canvas Blocker addon (doesn’t block them but falsifies them).
Probably the least relevant benefit of APNG over GIF: Unlike GIF, I can even pronounce APNG with a soft G and not feel gross about it. (Like I’m betraying the peanut butter brand and my entire moral framework at the same time, y’know?)
DON’T USE A SOFT G ON EITHER, YOU MANIAC
I mean, I’m just pronouncing the letters aloud: A-P-N-“Gee.”
TLDR how is that bad?
There were 14 competing standards.
There are now 13 competing standards.
And that’s fine by me.
