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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18420202
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Sharpening and caring for your knives is hardly an outdated skill you’ll never use. If you’re not regularly sharpening your knives, you’re doing yourself a major disservice.
My best friend buys a new chefs knife every month at the dollar store
Ihe was throwing them away, but now he gives them to me. I’ve shown him how sharp I can get them and how long they last with the edge I put on them, but he does not want to learn or just give them to me to sharpen every few months.
I now sell his sharpened throw aways to friends and family for 5 bucks a pop.
If y’all still out there shaving with cartridge razors you’re wasting so much money on getting a shittier shave.
But, yeah, “Art of Manliness” and their ilk do try to capitalize on a call to return to old fashion things by selling jazzed up overpriced safety razors and brushes.
You don’t need fancy shit to get a better cheaper shave.
i still use the same no frills safety razor handle i got from target ~2015. and the 100 pack of astra blades i got for $10 lasted until just recently
can’t believe how much money i blew on bullshit gillette crap for so long
Yup! Astra blades are less than 10¢ each if you buy a 100 pack
Until the TSA lifts restrictions on blades, cartridge razors will continue to be a necessary evil in my kit. However, there are so many better options for your home, as you say. The shown safety razor style is perfectly fine, and so much less expensive, even if you don’t go all in with a solid soap and brush, and just use a normal shave cream like Creamo.
Its inclusion here is absurd. Cartridge shavers are shitty for the environment, and shitty for your wallet; they’re not less manly, they’re just a less smart choice.
Wait, TSA throws a fit over razor blades in checked baggage? I can understand they deny it in carry-on but down in the hold?
No. Checked is OK, but most of my trips are entirely carry-on. I almost never check bags, unless I’m going on vacation. I did, however, once lose a nice pocket knife because I forgot to put it in my checked bag before getting on an early AM return flight, and had to give it to the bin, so I still avoid taking things that could get confiscated if I mispack them during the trip.
I don’t know about you, but my outbound packing is pristine; by the time I’m coming home after a couple of weeks, it’s a toss-up where anything is.
I’m only flying in Europe but have heard stories about the TSA being quite random with it’s rules, so I wouldn’t be too surprised to learn they do not allow them in checked baggage.
And loosing stuff at the security check really sucks.
Lately, my wife’s been doing now international travel than I have, and she reports that foreign airport security for flights to the US are far more strict than domestic flights. For example, TSA in the US is pretty loosey-goosey about the liquids rules - not the amounts, but having everything in ziplock bags that can be closed. I haven’t put my liquids in ziplocks for a domestic flight in years, but foreign security enforcing the TSA checks are anal-retentive about stuff like that.
Part may be because we’ve had pre-check since it first came out, so I may just be seeing only the less strict rules of pre-check, but I suspect the US is just more strict with airport security for incoming, non-domestic flights, and foreign airports are just doing what TSA is demanding, to the letter.
Heathrow, Charles de Gaulle, and MUC’s security are way more lax than any US airport. Where they get strict is when you get to the gates for the US flights and have to go through security - TSA, this time - a second time. The only airport I thought had general security as strict as a US airport was Singapore, and their TSA at-gate security is insane. Dubai, too. Only airport I’ve been in where the entire gate for a flight was enclosed in glass, like a snake terrarium. And god forbid you wanted to go back out for food or something, because you had to go through that TSA checkpoint again. I hate flying through Dubai to get home.
Now that’s interesting, I’ve gotten guff for flying with a safety razor but I’ve never had it confiscated or been denied entry to the flight.
They’re not allowed in carry-on. I’ve gotten through a check point with a blade on once, but I’ve also been pulled out and asked to verify there’s no blade. It’s low risk because all you lose is some time and you might have to toss a blade. But then I’m left with a useless razor until I can find a pharmacy to buy whatever crappy generic blades they have, which I then have to dial in for aggressiveness, and it’s just way more trouble than it’s worth.
When I was heavy business traveling, it was absolutely not worth it, because I didn’t pad my airport arrival and boarding time by many minutes, and getting pulled out for a check meant I’d have to run for the gate. Plus, I’d have to make time during the trip to find a pharmacy, pay for an Uber to go get blades. Not worth it.
On the much more rare occasion that I an checking a bag, like for a longer trip, sure; I’ll pack a safety razor or shavette, but then I worry about light-fingered TSA inspectors. Anything stolen from your luggage, you’re never getting back. I have a couple of cheap-o safety’s I wouldn’t mind losing, but they’re not my favorite shaves either.
All in all, for traveling, I just take cartridge razors. It’s easier.
I’ve flown with a safety razor many times with a blade installed in it and nobody’s ever seemed to notice or care. I don’t tend to travel with extra blades, though – one will do me for a week or whatever, no problem.
Largely same. Though once flying from Houston International to JFK a TSA agent started saying I couldn’t bring a blade onto an aircraft and she wanted to take the handle itself. I started to protest trying to negotiate her only confiscating the blade when a massive man wearing a 10 gal hat, a mustache that connected to his mutton chops and, most importantly, a big shiny badge said in a broad Texan accent “Now, Missy, how you gonna take a man’s razor? You want him to grow whiskers and folks call him kitty? Go on now, get on your flight!”
The TSA is bizarre.
You can get really good vintage razors off eBay for next to nothing. If you don’t wanna gamble on that, you can get a stainless steal 3 piece razor for a little over $15. Even the Wilkinson sword will save you money vs a cartridge razor while also being a shitty, not very durable, de razor
Hi! I’m wondering what’s wrong with AoM? I always liked that they had really nice vintage (fucking love vintage stuff lol) looking skill booklets that I could use or learn from. I haven’t been there in a loooonnnng time though, so I’m curious if I’ve missed something?
A lot of the shaving gear has a HUUUUGE markup for that vintage look. You can get it way cheaper direct from the manufacturer.
Ah! I understand now. I never bought anything from them. I was just happy to see a “healthy” manly community. Are they still that way at least? It’s unfortunate they markup simple tools though. :/
Wicked edge if youre in the us
Can we start making websites/forums devoted to just regular individual wholesome dudes and characterize them as peak masculinity?
peak masculinity /j
chat, is this real?
Happened right before their debate. Why it went the way it did.
When I was a kid my dad would take his morning shit while the door was open and it stank up the hallway not to mention the visual image of it all prior to breakfast. So one day I closed the door from outside and he yelled at me full volume that he wanted the door open so I had to go back and reluctantly open it.
That’s peak masculinity
Practically Ron Swanson?
His masculinity is well documented in the Parks & Recreation documentary series.You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like
Wetshaving seems fancy but honestly its the cheapest, fastest and best way to shave, that i have found.
In my experience it’s also the best way to show up at the office with a bloody neckline
You just need to shave with the grains (this may vary a lot from face to face) and you should never slide the blade sideways
I’ve tried many things, but still getting many small wounds. With the grain doesn’t get as close a shave.
Depending on your stubs you may need multiple passes. First with the grain and then across it. The last pass can me against the grain. Usually you’ll have enough foam/lathe for several passes anyway
That said, there is a huge variation og razors and blades. Some of them i almost can’t even look at without getting cut. Some razors have the option to adjust how aggressive they are. Shaving foams also change the experience basically and even you method of whipping up a foam/lathe can make a difference.
Its not as straight forward as it seems but once you find your way it is pretty easy. Take your time with it though. Shaving slowly is still pretty fast often even compared to electric shavers when they dont really take all the stubs
i use safety razors bc they are very inexpensive. also less environmental impact.
my neck has a sensitive spot where if I’m rushing, it will definitely bleed. but if I’m careful and use light pressure and don’t go against the grain it’s fine.
Everyone who shaves, regardless of gender and razor type, should have a styptic pencil. It stops bleeding like magic.
Beyond that, shaving with a safety razor is different because you’re never supposed to apply pressure - idk if that’s something you were doing.
I have a block of aluin, which I think is the same thing? It helps, but it isn’t magic. I’m not applying pressure, but still I get many very small wounds.
Alum blocks are similar but different, it’s worth looking into getting a styptic pencil or at least researching the differences.
Hmmm, what handle are you using? The common suggestion I’ve seen is to get a vintage Gillette tech off of eBay. It’s nigh impossible to cut yourself with one of those, and they’re usually around $10-$15.
The issue isn’t so much that I’m cutting myself, but that I end up with multiple very small wounds, roughly the size of a hair/hairsack. Like my shave is just a little too close?
I have an adjustable handle, Merkur 50C I believe. I set it to the least aggressive setting, and am trying all different brands of blades, but so far there’s little difference.
Ah, sounds like razor bumps maybe? I don’t know too much about them unfortunately. What do you use right now?
It does take a little practice, like anything worth doing. You save a ton of money (disposable razor blades cost pennies) and you aren’t throwing away all of that plastic.
I got my safety razor in 2011. I’m not sure if I’ve spent twenty dollars in blades since. Best investment ever.
Rolex 🙄 no thanks. Not interested in overpriced, obsolete jewelry. Let’s just call it what it is 🤷🏼♀️ Casio digital, ftw 🙌🏼 bc I actually like to know what time it is.
Haven’t purchased cologne since I was probably like 20. Dudes really go ape shit over that creed stuff, ay?
You can’t tell the time off a normal clock face, got it
And above all, everything is brown for some reason.
So many people are freaking out over the knife sharpening. A) you’re in this picture and you don’t like it B) hand sharpening on a whetstone isn’t necessary for home cooks. Other tools will get you to adequate with a lot less effort, both in learning and using the tools.
It’s ok to not optimize everything in your life. It’s ok to put your knives in the dishwasher. It’s ok to shave with an electric. It’s ok to not look like or dress like how these sites say you should.
Edit: jeeze, apparently it’s not ok so much so that it’s ok to imply violence is acceptable against people who put their knives in the dishwasher. I’m pretty grossed out by this interaction and at the people that insist their way of doing something is better, easier, whatever, when I’ve already said no thanks. Ew.
Whetstones require less effort than most commercial sharpening systems, and provide a better edge and more flexibility. But the point isn’t that you need to use a whetstone, it’s that you should be sharpening your knives.
It’s ok to put your knives in the dishwasher.
Oh good lord! Somebody hold me back!
Caught one! Lol.
I actually don’t use a whetstone any more because I found a couple of systems that work better for me, and because my main pocketknife uses steel that is too hard to be effectively sharpened with a whetstone. But they’re still very effective sharpening solutions for most knives. I use this cool system for day to day sharpening, and I use this belt sander when something has been seriously neglected, or I have a lot of knives to sharpen.
Lol, your knife is so hard you need extra tools to sharpen it? Weird brag. Very manly.
It needs a diamond rod or stone to sharpen it, yes. It’s not about manliness, it’s about function. Having a harder steel means that it retains an edge longer, and doesn’t require as frequent sharpening. There are potential drawbacks to steel that hard, such as increased brittleness, but that doesn’t matter for me because I’m not using it to strike anything, and don’t cut things that would cause the brittleness to become an issue.
As someone who washes his knives in the dishwasher (please, don’t hurt me), I think you’ve just inspired me to take better care of my knives. Think I might stop putting them in the dishwasher and hand wash them instead and get at least some kind of basic knife sharpening system. I’ve got a couple of knives that could use the little bit of extra care so I’m not struggling every time I need to use them.
That makes me so happy to hear! My sister took terrible care of her knives until after she cooked at my house and used my knives. She said that it was such a different experience that she went out and got a decent knife and sharpener the next day. My mother-in-law did the same thing.
That belt sander that I linked is stupid simple. You’d have to try to mess it up. Well, I guess if you don’t follow the instructions, or really lay into the grind a bunch of times you could mess it up, but it’s really simple if you read the instructions or watch the video. It’s super fast too. Like 2 passes and you’re done! If it’s completely dull then you’ll want to use 3-6 passes with each grit, but once it’s sharp then you can just use a honing steel before each use which takes like 5 seconds, and hit the edge with the fine grain sandpaper every few months.
When you push things around on the cutting board with the knife, use the back of the knife, not the blade. That alone will extend the life of your edge considerably. Then when you’re done, just wipe it off with soapy water, rinse it, dry it, and put it away. Since you’re cleaning it while it’s wet, the whole process takes like 30 seconds.
You don’t need an expensive honing steel. Even an Oxo or something should be sufficient for most knives.
If you don’t already have a good knife, then the Forschner knives are a great value for the money. I think they just go by Victorinox on Amazon (yes, the Swiss Army knife company). I’ve had their santoku for 20 years now and it’s still perfect.
If you want to get a superior knife, then the J.A. Henkels Zwilling Pro is an amazing knife for the money. This 7" chef’s knife is what I reach for 99% of the time. I like it a lot more than my Wüsthof knives. The length, balance, and handle shape are just about perfect for me. With proper care you can pass that knife on to your kids and it’ll last their whole life too.
Last but not least, you don’t need a full set. Almost nobody does. A good chef’s knife will cover most use cases. Add a paring knife, and you’re pretty much set. If you cook a lot then a long thin utility knife is nice for tomatoes, meats, and other soft things, but it’s not a necessity. A bread knife is a luxury for after you have the other knives I mentioned. A sharp chef’s knife will have no problems with bread.
I hope you enjoy your new superior cooking experience! It makes a huge difference.
Okay, bye.
Sure, all of that and then you go out with an half windsor, like a schoolboy
With the exception to the rolex and “10 things she wants to see you wear”, I like the things here.
Yea. I like Casio or Timex, cigars, and the lack of men’s perfume.
When you drive the the circus and all the clowns are dead
“Alpha”
Wetshaving?
The whole idea of “manliness” is kinda bullshit, but if we’re gonna roll with that, the most “manly” thing to do is not shave at all.
Say what you will, but that’s a nice looking jacket.
Okay, but knife sharpening is not outdated since everyone that cooks needs sharp knives. Bad choice. Shoulda been something like starting fires with wood friction.
Not everyone needs a progressively finer set of 18 whetstones so they can meditate for 2 hours every week as they sharpen. A honing steel and a basic pull through sharpener are adequate for home cooks.
Well, since the meme doesn’t mention anything about even multiple stones, much less 18, that’s just you being weird.
Also, yeah, you can use those two things. Wouldn’t recommend either for a decent quality knife, but they’ll keep things at a bare minimum of usability. Swap them for a ceramic rod and a single 1k whetstone, and you’ve got better results with less wear of the blade over time, just with an initial learning curve.
The only problem with pull throughs is that they fuck up knives with repeated use, pulling off more metal than necessary. Well, that and you don’t want to try any delicate work with a knife that’s been sharpened that way, it just won’t slice finely enough for fancy shit. You’ll be able to get through damn near everything else in the kitchen though.
Seriously, dude, if this is some kind of pet peeve of yours, be aware that nobody gives a shit when your comment is making a mountain out of a place where there wasn’t even a molehill.
And, frankly, you come off as being an absolute asshole in your comment, so there’s that too.
I sharpen my knives with a grit block maybe every 6 months, because I want sharp knives, but was told an angle sharpener would leave me with BBQ skewers.
It’s hardly a “masterful man task”, more like 20 minutes to do a kitchen chore. Like refilling the dishwasher salt. Or cleaning the bin.Yeah, it really doesn’t fit the meme at all.
