• ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place
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    3 months ago

    He’s British-Mexican. I am sure he had several choices before Qatar to go get a job. I understand most of us can’t afford to not take work, but work shouldn’t come at the expense of your life. And in shitholes like Qatar, that is a possibility too plausible to just ignore.

    Lastly, I understand that right after torture you’re never rational. But he tried to appeal the case, and he’s disappointed that they ignored the appeal. I doubt he made these declarations right after the torture. He probably made them days or weeks later, I’d assume he regained his sanity by then.

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      3 months ago

      You’re spending a lot of time scrutinizing the actions of a man who was just tortured for being gay. What are you trying to argue?

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            3 months ago

            Likewise I think your blind ignorance of how stupid it is to go to a country like Qatar while gay is pretty fucked up and gonna cost other people the same fate.

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            3 months ago

            I don’t see why. I’m not saying what happened to him was deserved. I’m just saying that expecting a country like Qatar, with a not short list of human rights violations (among the things) , accepts they violated human rights of a gay foreigner (and yeah, this is relevant for a country that hates both gays and foreigners) is unreasonable.

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              3 months ago

              You’re hyperfocusing on criticizing the man who was just tortured for being gay instead of looking at the broader context of what happened, or trying to consider how you would react in that situation. Being victimised in this way is absolutely fucking horrible, and it fucks you up forever. I reacted very similarly to situations where I was victimised for being queer, and those were nothing like what this man has been through.

              It’s impossible to imagine what this man has been through in any meaningful way, but you should take a bit to just think about what this man went through, how badly he’s been hurt to need to go to Qatar to find work, and the defeat he must feel knowing that he is forever changed by an experience that nobody will recognize or do anything about.

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                3 months ago

                Are you really that blind to not understand that endorsing this kind of behaviour will cause more death? You’re not going to change Qatar laws. They are a shithole country that kills queer people just because they are queer.

                Becoming a victim doesn’t grant you the right of not being criticised. In 2024, nobody should be tortured by being queer, but he did something extremely stupid, and nobody should encourage it.

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                  3 months ago

                  I said nothing about condoning, I asked you to empathize with a man who was just tortured. The fact that you’re getting so upset over that says a lot about you. There’s a reason you like to criticize the gay man and not the homophobic government that tortures people.

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                    3 months ago

                    I think you’re misunderstanding me explaining in detail my point of view with being upset. I’m not upset at all. As a matter of fact, I don’t even know the guy, so why should I? Something that shouldn’t happen in 2024, happened. And it’s regrettable.

                    At the same time, it was something completely avoidable. So while I regret this thing happened because it shouldn’t, I can’t help but to point out how stupid it was to suffer this from a totally avoidable situation.