• ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place
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    3 months ago

    Mate, it really seems you are the one very bothered for the point of view of an internet stranger. Especially when all I said to cause you this is that it’s unreasonable to expect that a country like Qatar accepts they violated human rights.

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      3 months ago

      Nah you victim blamed a man who was just tortured. I said it was a fucked up opinion and you doubled down. All he said was that he was “disappointed” and you got mad about that for some reason. He’s literally not even “expecting” anything, he just said he was disapointed.

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        3 months ago

        Again, mate, I think you’re the only one mad here. I never victim blamed him. But of course, I’m not responsible of what you understand, that’s entirely on you. Is he to blame for being gay? Absolutely not. Fuck anyone thinking this. Could he have chosen a country to work in that wasn’t a shithole place with a liking for killing gays and fucking human rights? And is it reasonable to expect that a country like Qatar respects human rights? I’m not sure you know anything at all about the shithole of a country this guy decided to go to work.

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          Could he have chosen a country to work in that wasn’t a shithole place with a liking for killing gays and fucking human rights? And is it reasonable to expect that a country like Qatar respects human rights? I’m not sure you know anything at all about the shithole of a country this guy decided to go to work.

          He never said anything about expecting Qatar to respect human rights, you’re just making things up to hate on the gay man now.

          I’m not sure you know anything at all about the shithole of a country this guy decided to go to work.

          Earlier you said that Mexico and the UK have better opportunities for gays but both of those countries have attrocious records for gay rights. You’re accusing me of “not knowing” about Qatar but you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. The way you keep saying “shithole country” like Trump sure does make it sound like you just hate faggots and brown people.

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            3 months ago

            I mean, if you make an appeal and end up disappointed because the country doesn’t see any kind of violation to human rights… How do you call that?

            Oh, and I never said Mexico or UK were better places for him, I said he is British-Mexican, so he probably had better places to go. He has two nationalities, so two different passports, and if he went to Qatar, he probably had the knowledge to work at any country that accepts citizens from both Mexico and UK.

            Lastly, yeah, Qatar is a shithole country, and the only thing you need to know this is that no decent country makes being gay a crime.

            Are you sure you’re not mad?

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              I mean, if you make an appeal and end up disappointed because the country doesn’t see any kind of violation to human rights… How do you call that?

              That’s called disappointment, that’s how it works

              Oh, and I never said Mexico or UK were better places for him, I said he is British-Mexican, so he probably had better places to go.

              Try talking to a queer person some time, shit is bad for us everywhere right now.

              Lastly, yeah, Qatar is a shithole country, and the only thing you need to know this is that no decent country makes being gay a crime.

              Queer people are marginalized in every country right now. You clearly aren’t actually that interested in queer politics or you would know that.

              Are you sure you’re not mad?

              Yes, I’m mad that you’re victim blaming a gay man who was tortured and keep dropping racist dogwhistles. Are you enjoing telling the faggots how stupid they are?

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                That’s called disappointment, that’s how it works

                If he’s disappointed it’s because he expected a different result from the appeal. Which is what I said.

                Try talking to a queer person some time, shit is bad for us everywhere right now.

                You’re wrongly assuming that I don’t know any queer person or their struggles. But go on…

                Queer people are marginalized in every country right now. You clearly aren’t actually that interested in queer politics or you would know that.

                Are you telling me that a queer person has the same struggles in say, Spain, or Netherlands, or France, that in fucking Qatar where they can be executed for the sole crime of being queer? And I should be the one who doesn’t know what I’m talking about?

                Yes, I’m mad that you’re victim blaming a gay man who was tortured and keep dropping racist dogwhistles. Are you enjoing telling the faggots how stupid they are?

                Again, I’m not blaming him for being gay. He did a stupid choice, he went to one of the worst countries there are to be gay right now and that was very stupid. What happened to him, while despicable, was a product of his choice. Being gay isn’t and never will be a crime, but I can’t change the laws of Qatar, so if Qatar considers being gay a crime and you are gay, maybe, don’t go there?

                To me, it looks like you’re just trying to find someone to direct your hate to. It’s fine. After all, you’re just an internet stranger so I don’t harbor any feelings for you, but I think you are making a mistake here.

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                    3 months ago

                    Is feeling compassion incompatible with anything else?

                    What happened to this man is a tragedy nobody should experience (this is compassion).

                    The reason why this happened was totally avoidable, Qatar is a country everyone should avoid (everyone includes queer people too) because they have crap laws and don’t care about human rights. (This has to be said because we need to educate people so they don’t suffer this again)

                    Do you have the power to change Qatar laws so they don’t consider being gay a crime? I’d love a different solution, for example one that makes Qatar a livable place for everyone, but until this happens, the best thing we can do is not going there, especially if your mere existence is a crime for them.

                    Edit: punctuation.