Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says his country’s troops have taken full control of Sudzha, which would be the largest Russian town to fall under Ukraine’s purview since the start of its cross-border incursion more than a week ago.
  • NoiseColor@startrek.websiteEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I know we are all happy Ukraine taking land like this, having some military success. I don’t want to be a downer, but it’s also a liability taking land you have no desire to hold. Sure I understand all the benefits of this, absolutely. It’s great success. I just hope it translates into frontline changes where it matters more.

    • Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      What if Ukraine invades Russia and overthrows Putin? And established a better government with interest in caring for the people, nuclear de-escalation, and better foreign relations?

      I know it’s never going to happen, but imagine how great that would be? St. Petersburg isn’t that far into Russia…

      • NoiseColor@startrek.websiteEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Yes, but that is a fantasy. Not because I think they couldn’t. I think they could blitz them and find themselves in Moscow for sure. But the regime in Russia will go nuclear before they let Ukraine come.

    • CaptDust@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Any resource sent by Russia to defend this region is one less resource being used in more important areas of the battlefield, that’s reason enough to take it when the cracks were discovered.

      • NoiseColor@startrek.websiteEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Absolutely! The whole narrative has already changed. I think the slow and confused response from Russia as they are struggling to find resources to stop this incursion is what speaks the loudest. … but, at some point they will find those resources. If there is no progress anywhere inspite of this?

        • leisesprecher@feddit.orgEnglish
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          3 months ago

          They hope Putin will overreact and send “too many” troops there and then quickly retreat with minimal losses.

          Apparently, the Ukrainians are surprised how far they made it, too. So maybe they hoped for a small distraction, got whatever this is and now are just winging it.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I share this concern. I posted the other day to this news, “Okay, now what?” And I got a lot of responses about short term benefits but I don’t see this as being part of any effective overall strategy. I really hope I’m wrong and I just can’t see it.

  • Frozyre@kbin.melroy.org
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    3 months ago

    How’s it feel, Russia?

    I just hope the russians that aren’t pro-putin are treated better than the russians did to any ukranians over the cities and land they’ve taken.

    • djsoren19@yiffit.netEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Even the pro-Putin Russians are being treated well and “deprogrammed.” I heard that a major struggle Ukraine is currently having is a lack of therapists, as captured Russians are struggling to come to terms with the cognitive dissonance between what they’ve been told about Ukrainians, and how well Ukrainians have treated them.

  • Jimbabwe@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    In a perfect world, they keep right on marching to the kremlin, shoot Putin in the head, turn around and walk home to Ukraine without any more death or suffering

  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    3 months ago

    “We will now hold an important referendum in which the citizens of Sudzha will vote whether Vladimir Putin should: 1. Get fucked, or 2. Go fuck himself. Voting is mandatory.”

      • finn@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        It’s wrong to put them in that position, if it is retaken then surely they would be collectively punished. And this referendum would not follow international law anyway. The area will be occupied until it is retaken by Putler or the war ends.

        • Barbarian@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Yup. Far better to do what they’re doing now, which is going above and beyond what international law requires. It requires them to be given humanitarian aid and be allowed to move further into Russia if they want to. Where they’re going extra is allowing any of them automatic asylum in Ukraine of they request it.