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Hmmmm… Terrorism?
oh, good thinking, yes; that village was a terrorist.
Fuck Israel.
I think you misspelled bomb.
Yes, it’s definitely the residents of Gaza and the West Bank who are committing genocide against the residents of Israel.
Definitely.
The Israelis don’t treat Palestinians like they are human beings. They don’t care to make generations of enemies with their war crimes.
Did you say the same thing about palestinians on oct 7th or do you have some sort of antisemetic double standard where you think it is acceptable to judge all israeli’s by the actions of a few, but do not think its acceptable to judge all palestinains based on the actions of a few?
Both sides have a lot of hatred and resentment toward each other. The problem is that the power balance is extremely heavily in favor of Israel, and they are able to exert their will on the Palestinians through force the Palestinians have no answer for.
But yes, killing innocent people is bad whenever it happens, and no, not all Israelis are bad, just the government, military, and settlers. One admittedly horrific massacre does not give Israel license to commit genocide on the Palestinian people, which is precisely what is happening right now.
the thing is, as shown here, there are no zionist civilians. not one. they are all armed ready and not just willing but eager to fight.
that isn’t to say there aren’t any sort of resistance, but while they’re not quite partisans yet, friendly fire is not the same as killing civilians.
80% of American jews self identify as zionists.
Are you honestly arguing that american jews who have never been to israel and have never served in any military are valid targets to be killed by the palestinian ‘resistance’?
‘I’m not the one killing you, but I do support the people killing you, and may even be financially aiding their efforts.’
Yes let’s compare them together:
A group of designated terrorists, absorbed into, a military force, that forces all European and North American citizens to join their forces and continue it “killing” and “stealing” of other people land. Compared in haterd for people who got their stuff stolen, killed, and oppressed in their damn land.
It is like police killing black people and a politician goes on about how trust between the community need to be built again. When it is one sided oppression.
What is happening right now in palestine is the world’s slowest and least effective “genocide”. To put it in context it would have taken the Nazis 4 days of operating death camps to kill more people then Israel has killed in it’s entire 75 years of existence.
It is so slow that at the present rate of deaths in 1000 years there will be more palestinians then there are now. Meaning, that even at the height of the so called genocide the palestinians are not actually under any threat of being destroyed by genocide .
And if there is no threat of actually being destroyed by genocide, there can really you claim that it is actually genocide?
Being forced from your homes; deprived of food, water, and healthcare; and tortured and terrorized is genocide by any definition.
Comparing the effectiveness of your genocide to the effectiveness of Nazi genocide does not help your cause.
genocide has a very specific definition under international law and “tortured and terrorized” is not genocide. It is torture, and terror.
Do you consider Hamas’ terror attacks and torture of civilian hostages to be genocide against Israel? Of course you don’t. Why? Is it the lack of effectiveness of your genocide that makes you OK with it?
Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group
The destruction of Gaza and the continued displacement in the West Bank for this definition. Israel is destroying Palestine and the Palestinian people. That definition is from the Holocaust Museum.
An outright instantaneous genocide would bring about too much bad publicity.
Crippling the sovereign functionality of Palestinians along with killing and displacing ‘enough’ of them to prevent them from clawing any of that functionality back is the goal, and that’s what is happening.
So it’s only genocide, if you redefine genocide to mean “crippling the sovereign functionality” instead of “destroying the people”.
Typical fascist doublespeak, the enemy is both too strong and too weak. They are strong enough to do genocide, but too weak to actually do genocide so they have to do a hidden conspiracy super secret slow motion genocide which means will literally never actually finish the genocide they started.
Likely they did.
Although I’d like to correct that they should be condemning the IDF and Isreali settlers, and not all israeli people. Just like you should be condemning Hamas, and not all the palestinian people. (which I’ve seen you’ve incinuated correctly)
There’s that word. “Antisemitism”. Put it back in the deck Moishe, It’s not winning you any arguments.
you’re not making genocide look bad, you’re just making antisemitism look good. fucking stop.
Nazis carry on with pogroms ☹️
they simply rearranged the letters: NaZi -> ZioN
Israel is only creating living space in the east.
A year ago, I would have assumed this was sarcasm.
It was sarcasm.
I think in this case, judging by the post history, it is sarcasm luckily.
I would say this is closer to the japanese version than the german one, since the riots about ‘you are not entitled to rape them, only kill them’.
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Centre or even center right, you peanut.
I’m amazed that they finally mentioned Israel in the headline. You’d expect the BBC to write something like ‘West Bank village burns down’.
Nah thats not fair to the BBC. They were fairly neutral on this and refrained from calling hamas a terrorist org until they were heavily pressured into doing so. They constantly get bullied by zionists for not being pro israel enough. Yes they could do better, but they are much more neutral than most.
I’m referring to examples like this headline where they completely left out the perpetrator of an atrocity.
Even the ‘fixed’ headline makes it sound like the dog somehow got loose instead of being intentionally sicced on the victim.
Damn that is more examples than i would have thought. Sad to see :/
Any source left of Fox is center left according to MBFC lol
Is conjuring the image of pogroms and burning shtetls antisemitic? Asking for a friend.
I’ll be antisemitic apparently if I tell this to an Israeli. They’ve also by now have that firm belief that their genocide was qualitatively worse than other genocides.
That society is degenerate. For real. They need some real bombs falling on their heads.
They think a few murders and bus bombings are equivalent to them leveling cities. They think they already were at war. They think they are already answering with their lives for what their government is doing by fair price.
They need real feedback. A couple of days, maybe a week of bombardment similar to what their state has been doing to Gaza.
It has done wonders to Europe and Germany in particular. This is the only way.
Settlers are pure evil
It’s a weird word to use to describe state sponsored terrorism.
What do you think a settler colony is?
Settlers is a weird word… Not evil.
readsettlers.org then. Settlers are pure evil.
Yeah but for most people who aren’t knowledgeable about history, the connotation isn’t necessarily negative.
It should be, but it isn’t. “Settlers of Catan” is probably one of the most popular board games ever, and it’s all just friendly people trading sheep and wood and shit.
Hence me linking a history book on the topic…
Yeah, because it’s not the settling part of a settler that is harmful. Settling in new lands is a foundational human behavior.
It’s displacing people when you settle on their already claimed land, and treating yourself as superior that tends to badly violate human rights.
In the fantasy world of Catan, we don’t genocide the natives to gain territory. This doesn’t make Catan harmful, it makes it a game.
I would argue that settlers is whitewashing colonization since it has all the hallmarks of exploiting a foreign land and shipping the goods abroad but it’s very conveniently unsettled.
Like how the american frontier was claimed to be unsettled land just waiting to be settled.
most people who aren’t knowledgeable about history
sorry but that’s as the kids say a skill issue
“Settlers” isonly weird to you if you discount all the other times settler colonialists stole land and committed ethnic cleansing and genocide.
You’re gonna have to explain this take. Illegal state-sponsored settlements in the West Bank are absolutely evil. There’s nothing weird about describing it that way.
Maybe they meant using the word settler instead of something more apt, like invader, pillager, trespasser, violator, etc.
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