Not trying to victim blame here but what kind of idiot parent lets an underage child on the internet unrestricted. Like godam what do u think goes on online.
As they should be. U assuemd correct. Mind u i did completly bypass all restrictions my school put on computers. But at that point i feel i earned the right to see fucked up shit on the internet.
Mind u i did completly bypass all restrictions my school put on computers. But at that point i feel i earned the right to see fucked up shit on the internet.
If you can do the former I think you’ve certainly earned the latter.
Back in the dial up days, my dad installed a switch in the phone socket in his room (which was wired before the phone socket in the computer room) so he could disable the internet at night. I used to sneak in while he was snoring and crawl around the bed to switch it back on.
Point being, there’s only so much you can do to prevent kids from accessing things they shouldn’t. The right way to parent is to try and direct your kids towards the right things, but also offer age-appropriate yet honest explanations for the things they do find. But it’s a difficult balance, as kids get older they deserve more privacy, and it’s difficult enough for an individual to stay ahead of the tech curve than to keep your whole family on top of it.
As a nerdy kid growing up, I was in charge of implementing the household safety features for our internet. I explained what features there were, how they work, and they were active.
May have forgotten to mention/block VPN though. That always seemed to work perfectly every week.
That argument is getting weaker every year. Let’s assume that the parents were 18 when they had her, that means the parents were born in 1985. That makes them millennials, who probably had the internet from at least 5 years old. So they aren’t some ignorant boomers who have no idea what the internet is, and they can take steps to moderate the experience.
Born in 93, my home had internet when I was like 5-6, but that was only for my mother to play virtual cards with friends and for research for her college. Didn’t really have regular internet access until early 2000’s.
You are not accounting for how lately average tech knowledge and skills have been declining rather than increasing, and that internet access is so ubiquitous that even given the best attempts at monitoring and restricting, there is no lack of alternate ways to access whatever one wants to.
Legitimately, it was much easier to control what kids accessed when the only place they could do that was the single family computer the household had.
Lol you’re assuming that everyone had the internet in 1990? Most households didn’t get it until the 00’s. I was in the early group, and I didn’t get it until around '95 (I still have dodgeball.exe downloaded from the Cartoon Network website in 1996). Most people I went to school with didn’t have internet at all, many didn’t even have a computer.
Even if you were clued up, is it really appropriate for parents to snoop on everything their child does? As they get older, it’s expected that they have a little privacy to themselves, and arguably not giving them some privacy could be considered abuse.
Is it really appropriate for parents to snoop on everything their child does?
When did I say they need to be a helicopter parent? I am simply saying kids in the 90s had parents who did not grow up with this computer thing, and were not aware of what they could be doing. So kids could do whatever. This person obviously had this type of parent.
These days, if you’re not at least taking an interest in what websites and communities they are participating in, you are not parenting.
Even more than this, if your kid feels pressured by an adult to get naked for them, and doesn’t immediately tell you, then I believe you have utterly failed as a parent.
I’m a few years older than you, and when we were kids our parents didn’t understand what the internet is and what the implications were.
Parents today don’t have the luxury of claiming ignorance. The vast majority of people understand that the internet is full of dangers for kids (and everyone really).
Though it’s not entirely without risk, I’m glad my parents, friends’ parents and school did when I was a kid. I find it somehow sad if today’s kids aren’t exploring the web + world on their own (with advice) some of the time, and figuring out how to act carefully outside of the walled gardens, getting to know themselves and preparing for the realities of life.
Not trying to victim blame here but what kind of idiot parent lets an underage child on the internet unrestricted. Like godam what do u think goes on online.
Oh, buddy, all of them
not all of them but most
Yeah, it’s pretty damn hard to stop kids from doing things - especially since they have their own devices that are required for school.
JustPrivateSchoolThings
The government gives devices to kids im publoc schools. Well if ur in a 1st world country unlike the us
My daughter has had a school-issued laptop since kindergarten but that shit is locked down tight. She can’t just go wherever she wants on it.
I assumed, quite rationally, that you meant purchased devices. There’s no reason a school device wouldn’t be tightly controlled.
As they should be. U assuemd correct. Mind u i did completly bypass all restrictions my school put on computers. But at that point i feel i earned the right to see fucked up shit on the internet.
If you can do the former I think you’ve certainly earned the latter.
All of them? The only restrictions my parents gave were about the amount of time I spent there and it’s the same story with all my friends.
Back in the dial up days, my dad installed a switch in the phone socket in his room (which was wired before the phone socket in the computer room) so he could disable the internet at night. I used to sneak in while he was snoring and crawl around the bed to switch it back on.
Point being, there’s only so much you can do to prevent kids from accessing things they shouldn’t. The right way to parent is to try and direct your kids towards the right things, but also offer age-appropriate yet honest explanations for the things they do find. But it’s a difficult balance, as kids get older they deserve more privacy, and it’s difficult enough for an individual to stay ahead of the tech curve than to keep your whole family on top of it.
As a nerdy kid growing up, I was in charge of implementing the household safety features for our internet. I explained what features there were, how they work, and they were active.
May have forgotten to mention/block VPN though. That always seemed to work perfectly every week.
Please don’t lump me in with your irresponsible parents please and thank you.
That argument is getting weaker every year. Let’s assume that the parents were 18 when they had her, that means the parents were born in 1985. That makes them millennials, who probably had the internet from at least 5 years old. So they aren’t some ignorant boomers who have no idea what the internet is, and they can take steps to moderate the experience.
Born in 93, my home had internet when I was like 5-6, but that was only for my mother to play virtual cards with friends and for research for her college. Didn’t really have regular internet access until early 2000’s.
the internet wasn’t actually that available til 1994 or so, and the dot-com boom was late 90s.
You are not accounting for how lately average tech knowledge and skills have been declining rather than increasing, and that internet access is so ubiquitous that even given the best attempts at monitoring and restricting, there is no lack of alternate ways to access whatever one wants to.
Legitimately, it was much easier to control what kids accessed when the only place they could do that was the single family computer the household had.
Lol you’re assuming that everyone had the internet in 1990? Most households didn’t get it until the 00’s. I was in the early group, and I didn’t get it until around '95 (I still have dodgeball.exe downloaded from the Cartoon Network website in 1996). Most people I went to school with didn’t have internet at all, many didn’t even have a computer.
Even if you were clued up, is it really appropriate for parents to snoop on everything their child does? As they get older, it’s expected that they have a little privacy to themselves, and arguably not giving them some privacy could be considered abuse.
When did I say they need to be a helicopter parent? I am simply saying kids in the 90s had parents who did not grow up with this computer thing, and were not aware of what they could be doing. So kids could do whatever. This person obviously had this type of parent.
These days, if you’re not at least taking an interest in what websites and communities they are participating in, you are not parenting.
Even more than this, if your kid feels pressured by an adult to get naked for them, and doesn’t immediately tell you, then I believe you have utterly failed as a parent.
I’m 35, and I have been online pretty much unrestricted since I’m 11/12ish. But yes, I saw some shits.
I’m a few years older than you, and when we were kids our parents didn’t understand what the internet is and what the implications were.
Parents today don’t have the luxury of claiming ignorance. The vast majority of people understand that the internet is full of dangers for kids (and everyone really).
I agree, the internet was still quite young in those days, I’m quite sure I wont be so open with internet access with my children (they are 7 and 2).
Ironicly same here. I did have to bypass restrictions put on me but i feel i earned to right to see fucked shit online by doing that.
Though it’s not entirely without risk, I’m glad my parents, friends’ parents and school did when I was a kid. I find it somehow sad if today’s kids aren’t exploring the web + world on their own (with advice) some of the time, and figuring out how to act carefully outside of the walled gardens, getting to know themselves and preparing for the realities of life.
COPPA
children under 13 can’t be online unsupervised
I think you forgot this: /s
I’m glad my dad has a no smartphone/electronics till you’re 18.