On its 10th anniversary, Signal’s president wants to remind you that the world’s most secure communications platform is a nonprofit. It’s free. It doesn’t track you or serve you ads. It pays its engineers very well. And it’s a go-to app for hundreds of millions of people.
How much signal and she spend onnthis shameless self promotion.
JFC, if anything she is taking signal the wrong way and going the way of mozilla IMHO
Signal is a good product but there is a lot areas where it can do better… Have gotten any new features over last 5 years? Besides aliases?
What are they working on?
Seen interesting discussions about how signal is farming our meta data to the feds, I was clowned a few years back on this hot take. I am very regarded though. Can anyone pitch on this tinfoil?
Main looking to understand if that is even technically feasible?
Wow, this is truly a hot take.
Why would she/they do that? Did you realize they’re a nonprofit?
Oh no, not that awful non-profit Mozilla…?
The same could be said for literally every product.
Aliases is kind of a big deal. They also added stories which, despite what the internet might have you believe, was one of the most popular feature requests on the Signal message boards for many years. They created the first and only private and secure social media platform in existence.
Keep in mind everything they do is 10x harder because it has to meet stringent safety and security requirements.
Check out the handle @SignalUpdateInfo@mastodon.world to see a detailed breakdown of added features.
That’s a bold claim that I assume has some sort of evidence?
Does signal meta data allow for signal to time stamp witu who you communicate using their app and servers?
Side note, PR like that costs about 15k fyi
No. They use your phone number as your identifier (unfortunately, probably for spam evasion) and the only piece of metadata they keep is the last time that # connected to the server.
We know this because Signal has disclosed subpoenas publicly.
No its not.
…and? My question remains.
@yogthos@lemmy.ml what you got to say for this one?
Verge doesn’t run flulf for free. This is PR 101. But I trust you bro
The Verge makes money the same way almost every modern media publication does; advertising to their readers.
Re-read what you wrote… JFC
This can’t be serious
This was weird for me personally. I consider Signal a messaging tool which in my mind is separate from an actual social media app, so it was a bit of a head scratcher for me to see stories as a very popular feature request. I don’t really care about sharing “stories” in that format to my contacts or seeing theirs, but then again that’s just me.
And I don’t care about what you think about it. If you don’t like it, disable it, and it’ll be like it was never there. Simple as that.
Like I said before, they created the first and only private and secure social platform. Nothing else like it exists or has existed. Personally I find that super valuable.
Lol calm down, no one’s trying to fight you over Signal being the best private messaging platform. I was just sharing that it was weird to me how stories was one of the most sought out features from users.
And I just don’t understand why so many people feel compelled to share their feelings about it any time it is mentioned.
You made a post in an open, public forum and you’re confused why others would like to discuss the things that you posted?
I don’t understand why people feel the need to derail the discussion every time it is mentioned.
It is the internet and we are on a discussion board lol
(almost) anything is possible with a CIA black fund budget. I’ve moved to Simplex chat and not looked back.
I feel that but people can’t just move since we need somebody to talk on these super duper 69 layer quantum resistant protocols.
Looks simolex is gunning for the crown nowadays tho but there other viable contenders baking.
Once new leader arrives, going to need to tell my group we migrating again 🤕
Why? Just stay on Signal. For the time being it is one of the leaders in private communication.
Though, if you truly need secure private conversations, you would want to move around a lot anyway.
For now it is the gold standard but I don’t trust the leadership and their PR approach.
I won’t move until I can justify moving my friends over and right now there is no alternative
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Yeah idk I’ve read it like 4 times and still struggle to find a coherent thought here.
Poster was made fun of in the past for saying Signal gave metadata to the feds. He has a learning disability (regarded = deliberately misspelled R slur). They’re looking for someone else to corroborate the metadata claim.
That’s my interpretation at least.
“Retarded” is not a slur. It’s a medical term. “Idiot” is a slur that roughly means the same thing, though not nearly as far.
“idiot”, “moron”, “cretin” and “imbecile” were all medical terms once and described different levels of intellectual disability, but they fell out of use and are now considered offensive. language changes, and context is important.
You sir ain’t only a linguist but a regard whisper too!
Thank you for the service!
They did a blog post about how the feds had made a second attempt to get metadata from them and they could only provide two fields of information: the date the account was created and the last time it connected to the service.
It’s in the public record as well if I’m not mistaken.
The issue that if they were under FISA order or some other such shit, legally they would have to say what feds tell them, ie they would not be able to say and we give feds your logs.
Question is whether they can technically collect the logs which is tinfoil i am following up on.
Basic opsec thinking, if it is technically feasible, you must assume it is happening. This is game 101.
So here we are trying to prove a negative but nobody also is able to provide anything beyond, trust signal bro.
They probably have turned over logs because legal persuasion, and it sounds like they anticipated that. Moxie has been around the cypherpunk scene for a while, so they knew what they’re doing.
Plus the paper on the double ratchet algorithm is out there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Ratchet_Algorithm
Signal uses Google Cloud Platform for their servers, for one.
Then I think it’s something to do with metadata.