cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19628702
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screenshot of this bluesky post (which you can read without logging in here) from
@comraderobot.bsky.social
(“Notorious RBMK”) saying:my friend who still lives in palo alto gave me permission to share this mailer he got.
there’s unhinged and then there’s tech unhinged
image in post has two photos of people wearing EEG electrodes, one xray of a human head, an EEG data plot over a silhouette of a head, and this text:
REM sleep is the next Al
The upcoming era of physical reality integrated with dream worlds advanced by the REMspace startup
- Controlling a smart home from dreams
- Transferring speech from dreams
- Controlling virtual cars from dreams
- Interacting with dream worlds using brain implants
- Social media for sharing dream journals
- Smart sleep masks powered by Al
- Many other breakthroughs from our lab (videos and tech)
Don’t miss the pitch of the year for potential partners and investors
Aug 29th Palo Alto
Above the image is an (inaccurate) BlueSky label saying “Possible tumblr screenshot” with a “hide” button.
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the guy behind this startup:
- (CW bloody photos) “I confirm the information published in the Daily Mail. On May 17, 2023, I performed by myself trepanation, electrode implantation, and electrical stimulation of my brain’s motor cortex. I needed it to test brain stimulation during lucid dreaming”
- https://www.newsweek.com/russian-implants-chip-brain-control-dreams-hospital-1814256
Possible Tumblr screenshot
What? Why does that need a special notice? Why is that relevant at all?
That label is there because I’m subscribed to XBlock Screenshot Labeller and it misclassified this image. (You can find here and here more info about how labelers in ATP work…)
Ahh I didn’t realise this isn’t twitter, I thought musk must have some weird thing against tumblr or something :)
Jesus, that’s some real desperate idiots there.
The last thing I want to dream about is tweaking a thermostat.
What if your feet are glued to the floor? And no matter which way you set it, it keeps getting hotter? Then you start floating while a shadowy figure sits on your chest as you’re unable to move and scream a silent scream…
They know that sleep isn’t wasted time, right?
Your brain uses sleep and dreams to integrate memories and learning.
For your boss it is. You’re not making them money.
I can already drive a real car in my dreams by taking Ambien
Good god, I was finally prescribed Ambien for the first time recently, and I definitely now realize why it has the reputation that it does.
Even if all of that worked, why would I want it?
Hustle mindset. 25/8 work ethic, baby. It is actually incredibly cool and fun to be a cog in the corporate machine. Liberty! Whiskey! Sexy! They’re giving out the good soma when you work in the Dream Mines, baby! Get with the program!
25/8 work ethic
Yes
Interactive dream worlds is essentially full dive vr. I guess you could just not use it, and while you’re dreaming about losing your teeth, I’ll be living through whatever movie I picked before going to bed.
Expecting any part of the brain to work that simply is foolish. We already know that REM sleep does a lot of the lifting for forming long term memories and processing complex input from your waking hours. Not to mention the importance of it for actual rest/recharging so you aren’t an exhausted zombie all the time.
Sounds like a wonderful idea to just fuck around with that.
You really don’t have any interest in controlling virtual cars with your dreams? That alone has me signing up as an investor.
I sort of already do. It’s called dreaming about driving a car.
I think these folks forgot that random dreams play an important role in information processing. I’d rather not mess with that too much.
I heard that their tech will lower the virtual carbon footprint of the car you are dreaming about driving.
Matthew McConaughey is driving and he won’t shutup about wanting to fuck a Lincoln.
“Who am I?”
“Why am I here?”
“When I’m done rolling up this booger, should I eat it or throw it out the window?”
Ahh it was a solid movie but it was a marketing funded piece based on the “center piece”
i hope you’re joking but if you’re not i assume you live in the bay area? if you want to go to their pitch tonight, here’s its eventbrite.
Putting that in my virtual gps
Yeah, that’ll go great when the car is suddenly driving 14 miles down the driveway of the house I lived at as a child - a driveway that is walkable in less than a minute - before entering the garage which is a large house that slightly resembles a place I used to work and has a view over a clock tower that may or may not be larger when you look at it from a different angle and I think I’ll nap in this bed that’s here.
Now tell me: Where is the car relative to its position when that five-second-long dream sequence began, and will that pedestrian ever walk again?
Make the Inception device or I’m not interested.
I’m just going to go to dream Disneyland where there are no cues and time passes at a super slow rate.
Oneiromancy is the new cyberpunk
I want to upvote the warning and downvote it contents
So will people pay to have Nicolas Cage in their dreams, or will they pay to not have him in their dreams?
Oh nice, I can control my smart home by dreams?
Me: *sleeps Coffee machine starts making coffee. Me: *sleeps
Can’t wait!
Doesn’t this happen at the end of Dream Scenario?
This has to be a joke
Tbh, if it were possible to record dreams or reliably trigger vivid lucid dreams, that could be one of the most significant breakthroughs in the history of art, recreation, and psychology. The fact that some startup is trying to grift on the idea with IoT/gig economy bullshit doesn’t change that.
Agree 100%, though the idea of recording dreams would be A privacy nightmare on another level from anything we’ve dealt with before
It IS possible to reliably trigger lucid dreams, done that. There are a few techniques. It just doesn’t come quickly, would require some “tuning” and practice. Depends on the person of course.