Hi fellow hosters!

I do selfhost lots of stuff, starting from the classical '*Arrs all the way to SilberBullet and photos services.

I even have two ISPs at home to manage failover in case one goes down, in fact I do rely on my home services a lot specially when I am not at home.

The main server is a powerful but older laptop to which i have recently replaced the battery because of its age, but my storage is composed of two raid arrays, which are of course external jbods, and with external power supplies.

A few years ago I purchased a cheap UPS, basically this one: EPYC® TETRYS - UPS https://amzn.eu/d/iTYYNsc

Which works just fine and can sustain the two raids for long enough until any small power outage is gone.

The downside is that the battery itself degrades quickly and every one or two years top it needs to be replaced, which is not only a cost but also an inconvenience because i usually find out always the worst possible time (power outage), of course!

How do you tackle the issue in your setups?

I need to mention that I live in the countryside. Power outages are like once or twice per year, so not big deal, just annoying.

  • schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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    3 months ago

    I replace the batteries in my UPS every 18 months, and don’t try to outlast power outages.

    I have everything configured to shut down if the power goes down and stays down more than 5 minutes, which is ~20% of the maximum rated runtime. (I’m using repurposed desktop hardware that loves it’s watts as a home server.)

    I picked the low number for the reasons you’ve outlined: even if the battery is severely degraded, it’s probably not THAT severely degraded and it’s a safe time span to ride out short hiccups, but still well under the runtime limits so that a safe shutdown can happen.

    That and I’ve noticed that, typically, if the power is down for 5 minutes it’s going to be down for way longer than 5 minutes, so it doesn’t matter and I’m not going to have enough batteries to outlast the outage.

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    3 months ago

    make sure it’s configured for clean shut downs before your battery runs out, auto power up on restoration, and hope it doesn’t happen. you will eventually have an outage that outlasts your batteries.

    I have a large string of batteries from an old telco office, that runs my rack for 14hrs (calculated, I shut everything down around this time) and that did not last for the 2-3 day outage we had after a storm. Without a generator, you will inevitably have an outage, but if you are prepared, then you can mitigate any damage. use NUT if you need to shutdown or power multiple devices from one monitored UPS

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    3 months ago

    Replacing the UPS batteries is required maintenance.
    Compare the cost of new batteries to a new UPS and realise it’s the cheaper option.

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    3 months ago

    The batteries should not degrade that fast. Get a name brand like Eaton or APC or something like that similar to a Power supply, cheap devices can do harm to your expensive devices. Have a couple of setups where the batteries (lead acid) are 5+ years old and they work ok.

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    3 months ago

    I was able to adapt my ups to use lithium ion batteries. I bought 2 giant ones that are used for rv solar systems. I tried using the other batteries and even when sitting by idle they loose their effectiveness.

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    3 months ago

    Two UPSs? Or better 3?

    Tbh that is the coolest setup I’ve is the OpenCompute rack with 3 UPSs powering the DC rail for the rack. Otherwise two UPS for servers with two redundant power supplies.

    How do you monitor your setup now, have you/can you use NUTS?

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    3 months ago

    My old server is a HP Microliant.

    What I love about it, is it turns back on automatically after a power out.

    I don’t know what magic is in there, but the power goes out, as it can at times, and when power is restored, the old girl just starts up again.

    I’m travelling at the moment, and have it at my parents house under a desk. It’s been there over 1.5 years and haven’t had to have anyone physically touch it.

    When it eventually dies, the next machine will definitely have to have that feature.