Turns out I have a disc bulge between two of my cervicals and it’s pinching a nerve, which is very very painful and weakening my arm and finger sensitivity.

I’m not here asking for advice, rather to get an idea of what’s down the road for me depending on the type of treatment I’ll end up following. I am seeing a doctor, I have an appointment tomorrow. I also had a CT scan done.

So basically if you’ve had something similar anywhere on your spine I’d appreciate to know about it. Did you recover fully? How long did it take? What treatment did you follow? Did you complement it with anything such as specialized exercises, acupuncture, massage or else?

  • BoofStroke@sh.itjust.works
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    Several years of pain and ineffective treatments along with wrong diagnosis. After I got c5-c7 fused things felt much better after a year. That was 11 years ago and I continue to not have the constant inescapable pain I had back then. When your muscles never relax because the nerves are frayed and impinged, it’s bad.

    It’s a rough surgery, but addressed my problems. I consulted with 3 surgeons before picking one I trusted.

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      The years of misdiagnosis and useless treatments are the worst. I now have a set of docs that I am literally afraid of losing as these actual listen and dig into the why… The listening! So damned important.

      My primary guy is amazing and kept going until we found. I went from age 14 until 35 before finding this guy, and he’s the first to actually believe me.

      I almost accidentally killed myself on ibuprofen… Pain so bad I lost track of how much I was taking since I couldn’t sleep and almost killed my liver. Blood pressure spike well into the stroke ranges…

      Glad you found a good one who got you fixed up.

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      Oh wow! How come they gave you the wrong diagnosis? No imaging used? That sounds like a nightmare, glad you found a solution in the end.

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    L5-S1 disc protrusion.

    Happened 4 years ago. Constant pain 24/7, unbearably so when I stand. Spent a year unable to walk, got surgery, could stand/walk for a hour-ish these last few years but had a reinjruy when I pushed myself. Now even with drugs the lowest my pain gets is a 5, walking to bathroom gets me to 9. Picking up my wheelchair on monday, hoping for a new surgery but idk. Just trying to cope day by day now.

    So, yeah. Here’s hoping your injury isn’t as bad. ♥

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    I went through a severe disc intrusion, 68‰ central spinal compression.

    Full treatment was anterior cervical discectomy and fusion, followed by a few years of on/off physical therapies and some follow-up steroidal spinal nerve epidural shots for pain treatments.

    I note this is likely a more extreme case than you describe, but it might give insight into potential risks or perhaps unexpected things to look forward to.

    My issues went untreated for close to about 20 years after onset of first neuropathic symptoms.

    Initial symptoms:

    Arms burning/pain from any position angled over shoulder height.

    Headaches and neck pain, frequent.

    Weakness in left arm and hand.

    Later these turned to outright muscle spasm in shoulders and neck. Everything became more painful.

    Started losing reliable use of left hand and would lose balance and use of left foot. Lots of aching pain in left thigh.

    This was around time of diagnosis, consider baseline for me.

    I attempted many months of various physical therapy and drug treatments. Some stalled things getting worse, none resolved things. Important to note, I had nerve damage by this time to the central canal.

    A neurosurgeon performed a Anterior Cervical Discectomy and Fusion, removing the bad disc layer and using a structure to bond the associated spinal bones C5 and C6 together, including a titanium plate and 2 screws.

    I woke up in the recovery feeling better than I had in literal years.

    That said, this surgery took place in 2016. I’m still recovering from the nerve damage and muscle death caused my the initial injury.

    From the immediate pressure release, I was back to my baseline function within just a few weeks. Surgery related stuff resolved quickly for me.

    I slept better than the previous 20 years. Absolutely worth it for me.

    I mainly needed physical therapy exercises to keep the neck and shoulder areas stretching out since the muscle trauma can cause tightening.

    Since that time, I’m still recovering from the associated nerve damage from the initial compression, but it’s still an amazing night and day improvement.

    Aside from the main surgery itself, the things that made the biggest differences for me:

    Steroid epidurals: neuro anaesthesiologists can isolate areas inflamed in the region and can target painkillers and steroids to hugely improve many symptoms, often permanently. Not simplest, but easier than surgery and has also helped me with some associated shoulder stenosis greatly. Takes pressure off nerve damage to allow healing and pain relief.

    Tizanidine: prescription muscle relaxer. This one functions a bit different than Robaxin / Soma / Valium, and was a life saver for years before they identified the stenosis itself. It was the only relief for the tightness or cramping I’d experience in neck, shoulders, left thigh and calves.

    Swimming and cycling: done in low intensity, these have been the most successful exercises at rebuilding the muscle deterioration in my central and lower back. I use a pedal-assist style ebike that let’s me focus the work based on pace and heart rate, with it taking the brunt of harder hills.

    Stretches!!! While the strength stuff from PT matters, the stretching stuff matters 10000x more! Needed to work with the therapist to figure stuff that wasn’t in the books etc… Strange angles to isolate the areas specific to my injury. Once we dialed in what I should try to feel from a good stretch, I’ve been able to catch the bad stuff as it starts early pretty often.

    Good luck on your treatment, whatever you choose. I hope you find real relief.

    Feel free to DM me if you have specific questions or if I can help. This is a lot to digest, and I’m happy to offer clarity.

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      Thanks for sharing this! Those images look very painful. Was this caused by an injury I gather? Or was it just degenerative?

      Also thanks for placing an emphasis on the stretching. I typically don’t see the benefits from stretching unless I’ve done some hardcore workouts or something. Will keep in mind.

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        My doctor and I suspect a childhood injury initially, but absolutely degenerative over time after the fact. My symptoms had largely been just pain for most of my life, but 2014-2016 saw them start to affect walking and hand use.

        The thought was that youth masked things, but middle age caught me 😄

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    54M with a L4/L5 bulge here. Happened 4 years ago.

    Been on 900mg Gabapentin ever since. The bulge is non-operable as it is not large enough. I know what you’re thinking, if it’s so small, what’s my problem? The bulge is sitting perfectly on the nerve (sciatic?) going down my right leg. Ever since, my right leg has felt partially asleep and with out the gabapentin I get a lot of lower back pain.

    I have a few other issues due to it as well. Using the full strength in my right leg results in painful cramps throughout the entire leg. I don’t have the full control over the leg. Walking over rough ground can be interesting, because the leg isn’t doing exactly what I tell it to do. It’s not enough to stop me from doing things, but it can make hiking interesting at times.

    Yes, I did physical therapy. Even to this day, I still do the exercises the therapist had me doing.

    I’m about 15 pounds overweight, but I am active.

    This is the way I’m going to be for the rest of my life, barring some procedure being developed that makes correcting a bulge like mine safe to correct.

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      If the gabapentin helps, have you looked at pregabalin? My doc suggested it and it’s like a super gabapentin. Much more effective, less side effects.

      It’s been a huge help for me… Made the difference between active and not active most days.

      Steroid epidurals also helped me a lot, but your needs might vary.

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        I’ve not had any side effects from gaba, so haven’t explored alternatives.

        I did have the steroid shot procedure, but it had zero effect. Day to day my condition is manageable, I just won’t be skydiving any longer. One hard opening and it could make my situation a lot worse and yes I am a former skydiver. So that’s not really a joke.

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    Took about 3 months. Mine was 2 disc bulges pinched a nerve that ran down my leg. At first The whole front of my left thigh felt like a big steam burn. The area got smaller slowly and by 3 months it was just a thin line, about a finger width from the top front of my thigh to knee that is just numb to this day.

    The pain in my spine was roughly along the same time line.

    The treatment I had was just over the counter pain medicine and then physical therapy to strengthen muscles around the area, apparently more muscle makes it less likely to compress and pinch a nerve again.

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      So if the knee is still numb- you didn’t recover fully, is that correct? Was this recent or a long time ago?

      Will keep in mind the muscle strengthening, I’m sure I’ll get a referral for a physiotherapist at some point.

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    I did. The pain gradually diminished, but it took a couple of years for it to fully go away. The numbness in my fingers never went away. Swimming and arm circles seemed to help, as far as physical therapy goes.

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    By mother’s had a bulging disc for what feels like a couple years now. Doesn’t sound like it goes away. She can’t even get pain meds either because they make her sick.

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    Had a disc bulge between L4 and L3. Pain was pretty terrible to where I was walking with a cane sometimes and picking up the dogs bowl to feed them was insurmountable. Lived with it for years because I didn’t just want to be in pain meds. Discovered physical therapy, which helped me build strength but could never get the pain to stop. They referred me to get radio ablation, this is what “fixed” it, the PT after was super easy since we were already in a routine and it’s been about 95% better. I can’t do a lot of the high impact activities I was doing before that injured me in the first place, but I can do regular life things again.

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    Twice. First time from waaaay too much time sitting as I had a full time job and then several hours studying for my CPA exam for several months. That time it got better over a couple months just by getting a standing desk at work (I alternated standing and sitting about an hour at a time) and light exercise along with nsaids.

    The second time I reinjured it deadlifting too heavy. That one I could not get rid of it despite stretching, PT, acupuncture and laying off most compound lower body work for at least 6 months. But then I went on a week long vacation that involved a LOT of walking…and it was like 70% better when I got home and almost fully healed 2 weeks later.

    I still get dull aches here and there but nothing I can’t work around or stretch out pretty easily. Mine never resulted in numbness of extremities but it was pretty limiting. And in my case it really appeared that regular movement and breaking from my day in and out routine made a huge difference.

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    Mine basically fully cured.

    Lose weight is #1 followed closely by trunk rotation exercise in the morning. Stretches stretches stretches. Rows and other back strengthening exercises.

    I had l4 l5 bulge that I fell on and severed a piece which is now floating.

    It pressed on the nerve giving me pain and eventually numbness and foot drop. Chiro and some PT got me good again but I almost lost my leg.

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    Still waiting for it to get better ten years later.

    And yes,I had world class treatment with no financial limits.