Honestly don’t know what they thought was going to happen. They’ve had some misfires lately with the PS5 Pro not being needed at all (the PS5 is a decent bit of kit, and certainly capable of handling everything this gen can throw at it), selling a remote access tablet/controller that doesn’t connect to their own cloud service, and even they’ve stopped talking about Concord.
The last straw with consoles for me was when they all started charging money regularly just to play online multiplayer games.
My Steam Deck makes for a better console-like experience than any of the major consoles, and more. I have zero interest in going back to Sony or especially Nintendo’s scams.
I don’t even play online. I’m just there for the monthly games.
I really wish they would release a new Steam Controller with the Deck’s inputs.
Same, tired of replacing the bumpers on my Xbox controllers, and want the extensibility I’ve seen with the decks controller layout.
I don’t, to be perfectly honest the builtin controls are the only part I don’t like. Too heavy, too bulky, terrible dpad, and for me it’s so uncomfortable to use the LR bumpers that I almost always remap them to the back paddles.
I’d happily pay for Steam because it provides a good service. Meanwhile, PSN and Nintendo Switch Online suck and are expensive (PSN is 70€ per year lmao).
They could have given us full backwards compatibility for that.
Personally I decided about 6 years ago that I wouldn’t buy another non-portable game console.
At this stage I just don’t see any reason to drop $600+ on a console when I could put that $600~ towards upgrading my PC and get vastly more value for my money.
So as far as I’m concerned, the only consoles worth looking at at all right now at the Nintendo Switch, which I have and love, and the Steam Deck, which would offer me my PC gaming experience with something it lacks: portability.
Aside from that, I personally couldn’t give 2 shits what’s happening in the world of XBox or Playstation these days.
… can you actually make a PC with comparable performance these days? What does a console-level GPU cost these days?
You have to consider the versatility of a pc to truly compare them. The pc will have better alternative uses like web browsing, the pc is very easy and fairly cheap to increase storage, you may be able to upgrade just some RAM or GPU to keep up rather than buying a new console. You’ll also have access to more games and more modding opourtunities. You can still use a controller on pc although you are often at a disadvantage in most FPS style games.
If you just want to game a console may be better or easier but overall a pc is usually the better investment in the long run.
Many people already have a laptop and want to build a PC specifically for gaming, though. Upgrading isn’t all it’s cracked up to be IMO, it’s definitely nice to have but a console lasts the entire console generation (5 years give or take?) if you ignore then mid-gen upgrade which is usually entirely optional.
My pc lasted over 10 years without a GPU or CPU upgrade. Now it doesn’t keep up with AAA titles but there are still plenty of games, old and new, that I can play.
That’s cool, but most people want to keep playing current AAA games.
It still kept up for at least 2 generations of AAA when built.
The $700 build is definitely not keeping up with AAA games for two full console generations.
If you game online that’ll also be an extra $400+ over the life span of console. So the real question is can you build a PC for $1100+
I checked Amazon a 3060 runs for under $300. A 3060 crushes any console:X
It’s out of stock now, but I did see a 4070 for 299 a few days ago. I should have bought it, but if I did, I would not have been able to pay some bills.
Absolutely
No, before the insane jump in GPU prices you could get in the ballpark, not anymore.
It’s hard to properly compare these two, because they are very different design philosophies. It’s like trying to compare a single blade knife to a multi-tool.
28 Blåhajar + a Mini one.
Honestly, Sony really sees itself as a premium(ish) brand that puts a heavy emphasis on novelty with a bit of sophistication thrown in. They also see Nintendo as a kid’s toy company. So, the expense (and some of the scarcity) is entirely the point.
Did a quick one to mimic my current “console killer” pc that sits in my living room, runs Bazzite 6700 XT
This is new stuff, one of the benefits of PC gaming is that you can roll builds. So if you had a gaming pc in the last 5 years you’re looking at a £450 upgrade, not a £700 one if you’re a PS5 player. Or even hitting up used for things like cases etc
Using a bench of Horizon Zero Dawn for the GPU
2k bench taken from techspot
so doing what the PS5 pro will be and using an upscaller like FSR/DLSS to hit 4k
4K is in the 50s, but again scalers used brings it to 60.
Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor £87.70 @ NeoComputers Motherboard Biostar B450MHP Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £50.99 @ Ebuyer Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory £16.48 @ Amazon UK Storage Western Digital Blue SA510 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive £99.98 @ Amazon UK Video Card ASRock Radeon RX6700XT PGD 12GO Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card £449.99 @ Amazon UK Case Thermaltake S100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case £34.99 @ Scan.co.uk Power Supply MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £42.99 @ Amazon UK Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total £783.12 Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-12 08:02 BST+0100 I have played GOW as well as a ton of other games this year at a resolution of 2K 144fps HDR on my machine without any issues or stutters. Also don’t have to wait for a republish that I have to rebuy to enjoy older games at 4k 140hz currently playing AC4 and it looks amazing.
Please don’t overpay for a 6700xt, get a 7800xt if you want to spend 450
Good advice, my personal build was done a while ago
Realistically, how much VRAM can you obtain for $699 after all the other parts?
you can build a 7600XT setup for around $700, so I’d expect 16GB… which it has? I reckon you can build PS5 pro matching system now for 800 - 900 dollhairs, but that’ll change when the next gen gpus launch.
Since you’re too lazy to make your own argument, here.
Buying New (Because theres no true bottom to used PC Parts):
GPU - 7600XT Fighter - $330 USD
MB - ASRock B450 - $90
CPU - Ryzen 5 2400G - $135
SSD - Kingston NV2 - $60
PSU - MSI MAG A650BN (Bronze) - $65
Oops, only $19 for RAM, a case, and peripherals…
Time to get schwifty and shit on the floor.
newegg prices
XFX 7600XT $320
Ryzen 5 5600 $115
Asus B450 $70
MSI Gungnir case $90
EVGA 650w PSU $65
1TB nvme $57
cart total $696.78
RAM?
32 bucks for 16gb ddr4 3200 cl16, included in the cart total
No, it isnt
Your list with the ram included is 749
You can buy 4 used switches, chip them, and buy accessories for them with 700$ available
Isn’t the Switch $300? 🤔
I should have clarified lite but for formatting of the meme it’s better to just put Switch.
They’re usually on woot for under 300
At $80/year for the online. You’d still be saving $40/year compared to 2 switch subscriptions. You’d save enough in 5 years to buy the 3rd and still be saving $20/year on subscriptions.
What if I’m not interested in playing online? Does the new console just require a subscription or something? I didn’t actually watch the announcement because I don’t need a hardware upgrade. I need more games that use what I already fuckin’ have.
Funnily enough, the Switch works perfectly fine without any subscription If all you want is plop your games and play without Multiplayer, you can go with a Switch just fine Even some games like Ninjala let’s you play online without the subscription
Free to Play games do not need the subscription to play online. This is true for the PlayStation too.
Wasnt aware it worked for PlayStation too
Good sir, your Pikachu is too HD. See to it at once
It’s a Sony Picachu. You might be thinking of the Nintendo one.
Pika
But can it run Linux?
Honestly if it was a open ecosystem with powerful hardware that wouldn’t unreasonable. Also if the games were cheaper it would be fine as often consoles are sold at a loss.
Yes, actually. Hacked Switches can run Linux and even Android.
Exactly
Given that most games are multi-platform and that developers would need to optimize games for existing consoles, is there any real need for the pro version (not counting the Sony’s desire to earn money by selling PS5 twice)?