Vladimir Putin has said that a western move to let Kyiv use longer-range weapons against targets inside Russia would mean Nato would be “at war” with Moscow.

Putin spoke as US and UK top diplomats discussed easing rules on firing western weapons into Russia, which Kyiv has been pressing for, more than two and a half years into Moscow’s offensive.

“This would in a significant way change the very nature of the conflict,” Putin told a state television reporter.

“It would mean that Nato countries, the US, European countries, are at war with Russia,” he added. “If that’s the case, then taking into account the change of nature of the conflict, we will take the appropriate decisions based on the threats that we will face.”

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    5 days ago

    “Vladimir Putin says…”

    Aaand my brain switches off. Another red line.

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    Putin is only 5’6".

    If he was a man, he would be a manlet.

    But he is an orc, 5’6" is pretty tall for an orc.

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        This is exactly the point. They are already at full throttle war with the West. The only further escalation they could make would be nukes, which would be their end, NATO can take out all of Russias nuclear capacity and win the war in Ukraine all with conventional weapons.

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    Anyone who has played the ‘Risk’ board game has an idea what the next moves should be.

    • calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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      So they should conquer the entirety of Asia in one turn, to get an extra 7 units per turn in order to afford their war with Europe?

    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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      Risk didn’t properly account for Russia’s nukes being parted out for the last 50 years by black-market scalpers.

      They almost certainly lack sufficient unadulterated fuel, complete/functional nav systems, accurate arming systems or reliable detonation systems.

  • A32topsL🌰@lemmy.world
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    NATO should at least shoot down missiles and drones which enter their sovereign airspace. Save Ukrainian lives and structures. Would also be actual experience of shooting down such actual enemy hardware in their own airspace. No simulation, no controlled environment. Would also train their AI for real.

    • DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world
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      maybe attack Ukrainian separatists as they are technically not Russian, and have flying transmitters over Ukraine and in the Black Sea with anti-Putin broadcasts.

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    Negotiate the full deal to return Ukrainian, and exit peaceably. Run your stories in Russia “Ukraine successfully denazified, free and fair elections to be held” - “Ukrainian forces defeated at Russian border”…

    …the go back to arresting democracy protestors, gay rights advocates, and your own alt-right talking heads… And try to keep your head on Vlad. Try to pick a successors, and a nice European country to retire to.

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        Then he’ll remain a danger to the world and probably do a lot of horrible things protecting himself, which will not be a good outcome for the west.

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    Russians are crazy, but are they really crazy enough to self destruct completely?
    Because I’m pretty sure they must be aware that that is what they are talking about.

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    Is that a shred of concern? Could he lose the war if longs range missiles were allowed?