Perl is the only language that looks just as incomprehensible before and after a rot13 transformation.
Python on the other hand is the only language that will cause your application to stop working because you mixed up tabs and spaces, even though it looks perfectly fine on your scr.
It is absolutely fine to mix tabs and spaces in Python, as long as you are consistent about it. It’s not recommended though, as it’s easy to mess up if you’re not paying attention. Most IDE’s will convert tabs to spaces anyway so it’s a bit of a non-issue.
You can make embarrassing mistakes in virtually any programming language that’s not too esoteric.
When I still used Python for prototyping (today, I usually use Go for that), it happened much too often that I did this:
if foo:
bar()
foobar() # syntax error
In Lisp, however, both errors are much harder to make (not even considering GNU Emacs’s superb auto-indentation - which is what most Lispers use these days, as far as I know):
(when foo) ;; <- obvious!
(bar))
(when foo
(bar)
(foobar) ;; <- still valid
(quux)) ;; <- also still valid
I’ve had very few issues with whitespace in my decade or so of using python, especially since git and IDEs do a lot to standardize it. I’m a Python simp, tho
…is it truly that bad? npm is the reason I don’t even install software based on node on my machines… python doesn’t seem nearly as bad by comparison? (I run it, just don’t like to write it) Maybe it’s worse than I realize
For all of those, Lisp is the more logical choice. Plus, whitespace as syntax is the worst possible design decision.
Ok, but what if an entire programming language is made of whitespace?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language)
Still easier to refactor than Python. ;-)
Relevant XKCD. Python has replaced Perl, but things have otherwise changed quite little.
Perl is the only language that looks just as incomprehensible before and after a rot13 transformation.
Python on the other hand is the only language that will cause your application to stop working because you mixed up tabs and spaces, even though it looks perfectly fine on your scr.
And lisp is hard to say if you have one.
Edit: aa -> after a
It is absolutely fine to mix tabs and spaces in Python, as long as you are consistent about it. It’s not recommended though, as it’s easy to mess up if you’re not paying attention. Most IDE’s will convert tabs to spaces anyway so it’s a bit of a non-issue.
Lol. You’re not wrong.
APL would like a word, though I imagine ROT13 on APL source code might actually be horrific.
I still write more Perl than Python these days.
I’m kinda jealous. I don’t miss maintaining production Perl code, but Perl was more fun to code in.
Feel free, it’s still out there!
You say that, then use a language that allows you to do this (it’s not lisp)
if (foo); { bar(); }You can make embarrassing mistakes in virtually any programming language that’s not too esoteric.
When I still used Python for prototyping (today, I usually use Go for that), it happened much too often that I did this:
if foo: bar() foobar() # syntax errorIn Lisp, however, both errors are much harder to make (not even considering GNU Emacs’s superb auto-indentation - which is what most Lispers use these days, as far as I know):
I mean, their goal was readability, and at least they’re trying new things.
I’ve had very few issues with whitespace in my decade or so of using python, especially since git and IDEs do a lot to standardize it. I’m a Python simp, tho
That syntax decision is single handedly why I avoid python if possible
For me it’s dependency hell. Almost as bad as npm.
…is it truly that bad? npm is the reason I don’t even install software based on node on my machines… python doesn’t seem nearly as bad by comparison? (I run it, just don’t like to write it) Maybe it’s worse than I realize
Not as bad. But if a bigger tool like Paperplane doesn’t run after an update, it’s likely some changed dependency in python.