Hello all, I recently setup jellyfin on my RPi 4 with an external HDD attached and after a few tests I decided to move on. On ebay I found a refurbished Fujitsu Mini PC with a Pentium G4560. It is way cheaper than the Lenovo ThinkCentre M720q (with a G5400T) which I saw being recommended a lot.
My question is:
how does the higher TDP of the former 54 W with a base frequency of 3.50 GHz compare to the latter with a TDP of 35 W for 3.10 GHz in a real world scenario running jellyfin?
For now I will continue using my external HDD because the prices for new drives is too high for me.
Someone linked a list of Mini-PCs here: https://lemmy.world/post/19837516
I think the N100 sounds good. But I can’t comment on buying a cheap chinesium one versus a refurbished Fujitsu/Lenovo or an Intel NUC.
I bought a “cheap chinesium” one a couple of months back and have not regretted it (yet). It does what it claimed it would.
The one I bought: Aoostar R1
How much did you end up paying? Did you have to pay tax, customs fees etc? $200 sounds almost too good to be true. Do you run Linux on it? Any driver issues? I’m looking for a replacement for my NAS right now. On paper this one looks pretty good.
I opted for the version with RAM and nvme for $270. had to pay shipping, but no import tax (lucky me). So all in all it was about $300 for me.
And yes I run Linux on it. Arch Linux to be precise. Have not encountered any driver issues.
Cool. Thanks for the info.
Uuhh, that’s a cute little trash can. Now fit that with the maximum of RAM it supports and two 12TB harddrives… And it’ll do more media center and NAS than the average person needs.
Exactly. It handles Jellyfin + other services very well.
Add some googly eyes if it “lives” in the living room. They fit right above the switch which would then become the nose.
Yeah back when I needed storage (quite some years ago) the mini pcs were less capable and more pricey, so I ended up building a NAS myself. It’s a regular, yet very power efficient PC. But due to size, it doesn’t fit next to the TV. If I’d do the same thing today, I’d certainly consider a machine like this. And $200 doesn’t sound much for a 2-bay NAS.
Holy shit! This is the first one of these things I’ve seen with SATA slots
I’d go with a corporate hand me down just for sustainability. Those tend to be in decent shape and can be had for reasonable prices. Buying second hand is always a bit of a lottery but so is buying chinesium.
Sure. I usually do the same thing. The laptop on which I’m typing right now is a refurbished Dell one and I really prefer a bit older enterprise hardware to new consumer hardware. Nice build quality, no nonsense and Linux runs great on that device. And it cost me a fraction of a new machine. However… with the intended use-case of a media center I’m not sure. Intel always adds hardware acceleration in their iGPUs and the modern codecs are quite demanding. I wouldn’t buy an older generation that doesn’t really support AV1. I’m not sure if hardware from 2 years ago can do that. And if someone buys a new TV set which supports HDR or something and then the recently bought, refurbished media center is out of date again… that also doesn’t help. Maybe I’d buy a new one in this case and just use it for the next 10 years. That’s also sustainable. But yeah, you have to pay attention to the details if you’re buying off-brand. But that also applies to most computer hardware, regardless. It’s a bit more of a lottery with cheap and off-brand devices.
NUCs are where to go. Intel chips good for transcoding and 3 year warranty. Had 1 die out of 3 die in 4 months and got a full replacement. Got another so I’m running 4 now and been about a year. Running tons of stuff and measured power to about $2.5/mo/pc.
So back to beelink on amazon?
FWIW: I’m running jellyfin and a whole host of other services on a Beelink with an Intel n95 and 8gb of ram. Runs like a champ.
The thing that matters more than the TDP is how much power they draw at idle. It’ll likely be idling or turned off more than it will be on. And even when on, it probably wont be hitting its max TDP just playing some media unless you’re transcoding to 4k or something.
Is there a percentage of the TDP which is usually the idle power draw?
Gamers Nexus reports 44W at idle with the G4560 which is already more than the G5400T’s MAX TDP of 35W, so it’s a pretty significant difference.
Assuming the RAM and other components are similar, I’d go with the G5400T system.
Unfortunately no, which can make it a pain to figure out. You’d have to research the CPU itself.
Whats your budget?
My go-to recommendation is the barebones CWWK N100 development board. Then you can add as much RAM and storage as you want. Up to 4xNVMe and 2x SATA drives are supported.
It also uses a normal PC fan jnstead of those whiny-ass laptop fans.
Thats what I use.
Can’t answer your question but I got a refurb corporate m715 for 60 bucks, I haven’t bothered upgrading the 8Gb ram^* and it runs a full dockerized arr stack, vpn and jellyfin without any issue. I don’t reencode and I don’t use 4k media, so I can’t talk about that either.
But if you’re looking for cheap that works, it’s not a bad little machine.
^* The system actually run on 6Gb since 2 are reserved for video and by the time I realized that everything has been up and running fine for a while, so I didn’t even bother rebooting in the bios to change it, I just added a bigger swap 🙄
For Jellyfin, dont get any lower than 8th gen if you want to transcod using quick sync. And if i correctly remember, you will nee 10th gen or higher for 10bit transcoding.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters NAS Network-Attached Storage NUC Next Unit of Computing brand of Intel small computers RPi Raspberry Pi brand of SBC SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage SBC Single-Board Computer
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