• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    10 months ago

    It takes a lot of personal discontinuity to say that either the KKK or the SS would be voting for a black woman.

    And yes, personal discontinuity is meant to be a nice way to say: you dumb.

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    10 months ago

    Abortion is on the ballot in ten states that isn’t good for Republicans at all. Expect to see way more trolls talking about how they are suddenly voting for the green party despite there being an actual socialist candidate to vote for. Republicans are desperate and know they’re in for big losses if they can’t pull something out.

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          10 months ago

          Oh hey, another third party candidate coming out of the woodwork to run for president despite no experience in political office. I’m all for socialist candidates, but they should set their sights a little lower and start with County Commissioner or something to build experience.

          0% chance that a truly progressive candidate will win the general election without 1. significant experience themselves and 2. significant progressive representation in Congress and state offices. If the “both sides” parties can’t navigate the gridlock when they’re supposedly on the same team, how on Earth is an outsider going to get anything remotely effective accomplished without massive support from the legislative branch?

          Vote progressive down ticket and in local elections. When we have a healthy progressive bloc in Congress, then we can seriously consider a progressive presidential candidate. And for the love of God, they need actual experience first(Senator, Governor, Attorney General, something).

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            10 months ago

            To be clear I’m not advocating for Cruz I just think it’s hilarious that people who claim to lean left are hyping up the green and not the labeled socialists.

            To be honest I support my DSA locally because they actually take up council seats and attempt pushes into legislature and help with union actions.

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              To be honest I support my DSA locally because they actually take up council seats and attempt pushes into legislature and help with union actions.

              What’s this? A rational socialist voter that uses the features of the political system to gradually effect lasting change by engaging in local politics? Is that allowed?

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      10 months ago

      Technically this is exactly what Republicans wanted, letting it be up to the states and the people.

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      10 months ago

      The thing is that it is on their own internal instance from which most other instances have defederated, so the audience they are trolling are mainly themselves. That kinda debunks the “they are only trolling/baiting” claims in my view.

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      10 months ago

      Define amazing take. Defending Tankies isn’t allowed on this community.

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    10 months ago

    The old “look at how well the system works you just have to move to make a difference” story

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    10 months ago

    While I strongly disagree with the dogwhistles here, it’s true. If your state voted for Trump or Clinton/Biden with >10% margin in the last two elections, there’s almost zero chance the Trump/Harris election will go any differently.

    I personally dislike both major party candidates (but dislike Trump more) and since my state (Utah) voted for Trump with ~20% margin in both prior elections (even in 2016 w/ McMullin taking >20% of the vote), I feel comfortable voting my conscience. I even voted for Biden last election on the off-chance that people here hated Trump enough to matter, but no, >20% spread.

    So I’m back to voting third party. Even if every third party vote went to Harris, my state would still elect Trump with something like 15-25% spread. The only way that changes is if Kamala converts to my state’s predominant religion and Trump literally outs himself as worshipping Satan, and even then we’d probably still go with Trump for some stupid reason.

    So I vote for the next most popular third party, and in this case, that’s Chase Oliver from the Libertarian Party. I’m also registered Libertarian, mostly because I think they have the best chance to actually get a message out about voting reform, but also because I’m probably closest to their views (though I disagree with the LP on a ton of issues, especially recently, and especially the local UT LP). He’ll probably get 2-3% of the vote, perhaps less this year because he’s gay. If that instead were the Green Party, I’d vote for them (even though I have even less in common), because my goal here is to send a message that the 2-party system sucks.

    If your state is that polarized, there’s really no point in voting for the minority party candidate, go third party and make a statement.

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    10 months ago

    Eh, if you’re in a red state that doesn’t do proportional voting with their electoral college votes, they’ve got a point.

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      10 months ago

      States can change color over a longer time if you dont do that shit. Is calling the candidate KKK/SS a good point?