…I’m gonna go ahead and say it.
I like it better here.
This place feels like old reddit. When we could have actual discussions and not just be downvoted by bots. It’s so much better here
And you can still tailor it to yourself. Instances have different mindsets to different topics and things they allow or don’t and there’s tons of people to agree with or disagree with but everyone is cordial.
I just don’t have a reason to go back
Same. This place is great, even with the tankies from lemmy.ml and the fascists from hexbear, at least we somehow still get along.
Not all of us are tankies fwiw, I just wanted to be on the largest and most well-supported instance with generally the least amount of downtime.
Isn’t it lemmy.world?
That one isn’t the largest, no. The largest is .ml and it’s run by the two Lemmy maintainers.
I am confused, every statistic of .world seems bigger. What am I missing?
Looks like I was mistaken, then. Looks like .ml isn’t the largest, it’s just the one run by the two Lemmy maintainers, which for me (combined with .one keeping going down when I was actively using it) made it my home instance.
Fair 🤷♂️
Lemmy was better before the Reddit exodus last year, when people started insulting others by calling them tankies and fascists. Before that, it was much more peaceful.
It was still full of tankies though, lemmygrad was the second biggest instance and you’d see it everywhere
I honestly believe that Lemmy is cool, but it either needs more content or I need to perform a magic trick to make my feed “better”. At least it’s not that addicting, and the “small community, small town” vibes gives charm to it.
I’ve been here since August 2024 or so.
On Reddit, everyone is trying to get a million votes and just brutally murder with words everyone. It either gets really hostile, or just lots of bots posting bot shit.
On Lemmy: Even the posters I disagree with, I have a lot of fun with them. We say stupid shit all the time and accept the upvotes/downvotes with our shitposts.
That’s been my experience as well. I’m using a Lemmy client that allows me to tag users, and I’ve been tagging people who have posted comments that annoyed me. A few are obvious trolls, but the rest have posted many comments that I liked or agree with since I’ve tagged them. It’s been refreshing to see, actually
I need to perform a magic trick to make my feed “better”. At least it’s not that addicting
Lemmy’s feed is intentionally (or I think it is intentional at least) worse in this aspect than Reddit’s feed, in order to not be as addictive. Take that how you will.
I agree, so I’ve been posting photos and things. What we don’t need is a bunch of autoposting bots.
If you want to find the busy threads though, sort of Active and All. And just see what is going on across the lemmyverse
If you want to find the busy threads though, sort of Active and All. And just see what is going on across the lemmyverse
Yeah, this helps, but it’s not always topics that really interest me. We kind of need more diversity of content around here.
since August 2024 or so
So, two months? Lol
Wait, it’s have been only 2 MONTHS? Phew, time’s passing slower than I though!
It’s a lot better than August 2023!
It’s so much better. Personally I don’t hope it grows much either. Satisfies my content itch, have still had some good quality convos here, seen some great comments threads. Absolutely none of the bullshit that Reddit purposely encourages. Plus most of the zeebs and the chronically offended seemed to have stayed with reddit, and I’m super OK with that.
I’d argue Lemmy is turning into its own echo chamber. I’ve seen some mods power tripping just like good old Reddit. I erroneously thought people would learn from past mistakes, but sadly this is not what happened.
Then just go to a different Instance. I agree the powermods are a headache, but at least with Lemmy they have way less power. You can start a new sub with a matching name on a different Instance, and draw people away from the power mods. People get pretty sick of the power mods, pretty fast.
I’ve seen some mods power tripping just like good old Reddit.
The difference is that when that happens on Reddit, you can’t go anywhere else. On Lemmy, you can go to any other instance and do it better if you feel the mods elsewhere are bad.
I agree with everything you said, but I gotta ask: What is a zeeb?
I believe the definition is somebody who is totally lame.
Mods could just make a filter to remove everything new anyway. The concept of mods being unpaid volunteers means they get to fuck with reddit if they really want. They already had that issue with some subs just starting to allow porn during the first api protest. Sure reddit can just churn through to newer friendlier mods like the first time but they’re not going to be able to crush all the dissent and drama from moves like that.
But actually I think reddit has a bigger problem than protests. They tweaked their algorithm recently and it is going the way of facebook now, I’ve been getting 0 upvote day-old posts shown to me. They’re probably getting more engagement but I don’t think redditors are going to put up with that level of enshittification as easily as other social media where people are locked in by friends and followers.
If you can’t meaningfully curate your feed then Reddit has lost all value.
You know what’s not impossible? Leaving that shit hole and never coming back.
It’s possible but reddit isn’t the only one looking for engagement, so are individual users. If a site has more users, it has more engagement and content. It is also not impossible to drop the lemmy name when you do go back there to make people aware of the alternative.
Someone dropped the name lemmy over there, so now I’m here checking it out. Screw reddit, man.
And moving to a different, more decentralized shithole?
Lemmy has the same power tripping admins and mods, just more of them and each with a new and unique bias. You don’t hate AI? Ban. You acknowledge certain genocide? Ban. You made fun of my typo? Ban.
Wrong instance I guess. Yeah, Lemmy.ml, Lemmygrad and hexbear are toxic as hell, but there are really nice instances out there. I chose dbzer0 and it’s great here. We also have many interesting threads about locally hosted FOSS AI. db0 himself is quite involved in this topic, he’s the initial author of things like AI Horde. Basically everyone on db0 I’ve seen acknowledges the active genocide that’s being conducted by the Israeli fascists government. Other topics on the instance are anarchism and of course piracy.
Which is great, but for “news” there seems to be one major community and even then there’s like 3 comments on the typical post. Any “news” communities on other instances have zero.
I have very popular hobbies (football, formula1, to name a few) and there is no community for them. Just not enough users.
That’s exactly why more people need to leave Reddit and other corporate social media platforms
You did not make fun of my typo? Believe it or not, also ban.
We have the best commenters. Because of ban.
Unlike the reddit, you can always make your own instance and host your own communities and nobody will ever ban you. That’s the joke pointing of being distributed.
Same as subreddits. The problem is most communities are on .lm and .world, and already established.
Again, the point is that nobody can ever stop you from running a community as you see fit, unlike reddit, which easily ban you and your community for any or no reason. And if your community is run well and the other has indeed power-trippin mods, the people will come to yours, as has happened multiple times before. So no, it’s not the same shithole, unless you make one.
Not the same shithole, a more decentralized one.
And if shitty moderation would mean people leave, reddit wouldn’t have any users. Alas…
People do and have left communities in the past. /r/Marijuana to /r/trees comes immediately to mind and there have been many many others. But leaving for an entirely different service has a way higher executive cost. Once people are in the fediverse however, the cost to switching primary communities is not that high, and we’ve seen that away when people moved from !risa@startrek.website to !tenforward@lemmy.world due to mod actions.
Public modlogs and federation help fight this.
Helps document this, does little to fight it.
As a user from @programming.dev you should know the importance of documentation, and the log being easy to read should help the users to fight it themselves. As in by making their own communities/instances as needed
As a user of programming.dev I know that 99% of users don’t read the documentation and just go for whatever is easiest / less effort.
As if finding the log takes more than a few seconds, took me like half a minute looking for it for the first time when i wanted to check a users deleted comment history.
Good for you, that’s probably the most important feature for the average redditor, not content relevant to them…
That’s not a good method though on it’s own, there needs to be effort to undermine them. And since they don’t want to do peaceful protests, the only option left are the more violent and less legal ones. The ones that compromise their platform and its data.
So rather than allow subs to remain preserved while the replace the mods in place they will push subs to shit on themselves in this latest bout of enshittification.
There are many valid reasons outside of a sitewide protest for a subreddit to go from public to private, so Reddit doing this is a scummy move on more than just one level. Just one more reason why free alternatives like lemmy are superior.
FUCK SPEZ
I recently wanted to ask something on reddit after 2 years away, because a certain mod dev is there. Got a message it got deleted because i don’t have the karma to post there. Thanks for the effort, never again. That’s why i don’t write on Stack Overflow, too.
Most self destructive design choice I’ve ever seen on a site
How the fuck are you supposed to get new users if nobody can even post!?
Is that the site we all left cuz it’s a turd? Yeah? Don’t care. It’s called principle.
Reddit vacillates between operating as a clearing house for the most ugly, racist, reactionary propaganda currently in circulation and doing pogroms against the six subreddits that got popular posting current events about a new kind of genocide we invented.
I’m glad I left, but it’s hard not to look over my shoulder and notice they’re doing the same fascist bucket carrying from 2020 and 2016 and 2012 and 2008 and…
As a russian I knew it will happen.
Now I wonder what Ukraine Reddit will start war with? EU? FTC? Fediverse? Something to keep it in permanent state of emergency. Bots? Adblockers?
Lack of imagination.
Mods can still dump 10k trash messages in a sub making it unusable. (Or smart messages in the case of most subreddit who are trash anyway).
Set-up automoderator with rules reventing anyone below 5 billions karma to participate.
Ban everyone.
I’m sure there are a lot of other options.
I just checked and theyve banned my private subreddit for lack of moderation
I’m out of the loop on Reddit, but I was beyond a power user on there two years ago. Back then, if every human user on the site stopped using the site, the admins would not have noticed any difference because nearly every post was bot networks reposting old top posts and filling the comments with the exact comments from the last time it got upvoted.
Garbage website. I miss it for what it was capable of for a while there.
More than a year after the protests, Reddit is essentially back to normal.
[citation needed]
For a casual observer, who was never engaged with that platform, it might actually look like Reddit is back to normal, based on a casual glance at the activity.
You only notice the cracks leaking water when you actually look closer, and you remember that the stone dam didn’t have so many of them. The surge on bot activity, the lower level of discourse in the comments, the further concentration of activity into larger subs, the content feeling more and more repetitive…
dont worry r/worldnews allwasy ready for the mission.
Are you sure you wrote this correctly? /lh
This is not a smart choice, they do know that the alternative to peaceful protests like this is violent protest right? They want to challenge that or do they think it won’t be done because it’s “illegal”, that didn’t stop these guys now did it?
It happens in the real world too.
In the positive cases the local police force and / or military manages to convince the government that it is a non-supportable act and nothing happens. In the bad cases it results in government officials getting lynched in the end.
Some people point blank refuse to learn from history, no matter how many times it is repeated.
