• locuester@lemmy.zip
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      I think their Vision Pro will be the product with least reported defects. However, that’s because its only job is to hold down paper on a desk.

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    Pathetically weak flex cable and connector. Obvious problem and design weakness that’s persisted for years.

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      It would be a relief if that was the problem. Even if Apple won’t issue a recall, third-party cables can be made and sold for a reasonable price by places like iFixIt.

      If the display itself is defective, then this is going to be real bad for a lot of people unless Apple bites the bullet.

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        Look at the 2016 MacBook Pro.

        They had a problem with the display cable and it can’t be easily replaced since it’s soldered to the display.

        You basically just need to get an entirely new display even though it’s just the cable.

        Additionally, some shops will resolder the cable, but it’s not a long term solution.

        Even replacing the display by Apple is not a long term solution because they replace it with another display that has a cable that’s slightly too short and will eventually break again.

        So the only real solution is to buy a new computer.

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          Heck my SO has a 2nd gen Macbook air and it has the display cable problem as well.

          Perfectly good laptop, but no OS or hardware support and a repair quote for more than the machine is worth.

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            Yeah, there is a way to get modern macOS running on it unofficially. I’m debating between that and just putting Linux on it.

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      I find victim blaming counterproductive. It would be more helpful to discuss stronger consumer protection laws.

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      Ehh…iOS is arguably the most secure mobile operating system (excluding something like GrapheneOS) currently on the market.

      I don’t give a shit what brand you use, because I don’t have brand loyalty, but I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks. Shitting on the consumer here does no good. All consumers deserve the same amount of consumer protection, regardless of which tech overlord they happen to purchase their hardware from.

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        Shitting on the consumer here does no good.

        It absolutely does help to remind them that they’re victims of their own poor choices.

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          By that rationale, we should be blaming those who picked a certain brand of hamburger meat for getting salmonella poisoning? I would think we’d want to push responsibility on the corporation and governmental oversight for change in food safety standards than mock those who got sick.

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            By that rationale, we should be blaming those who picked a certain brand of hamburger meat for getting salmonella poisoning?

            Is this hypothetical hamburger brand notorious for having salmonella in their burgers? Because yes. Absolutely.

            I would think we’d want to push responsibility on the corporation and governmental oversight

            Yeah, of course we would. This is a false dichotomy though. You don’t have to choose one or the other.

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              I mean, it’s not really a false dichotomy though? Your statements suggest that we assign fault/root cause to the consumer. I’m suggesting we assign root cause to the manufacturer/lack of regulation. If at the end of the day, it’s the consumer’s fault they chose a product without conducting a comprehensive quality review of all components within the product they purchase, then the action of pushing government regulation contradicts that. Funding regulation doesn’t do anything to fix consumer behavior; i.e. root cause. But maybe I misinterpreted your statements.

              As for your first statement, there are many problems with this reasoning. How can we reasonably expect consumers to perform comprehensive research studies on everything they purchase? If it turned out the specific manufacturer of Grade B wool that’s used for a certain sweater from a certain clothing brand is known for causing latent forms of cancer if worn for 2 years, that’s really on the consumer? C’mon now.

              Besides, in this specific case, it turned out to be a catastrophic latent failure. It wasn’t even possible for an informed consumer to have predicted this sort of catastrophic failure.

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                Your statements suggest that we assign fault/root cause to the consumer.

                Wrong. I’m saying they’re both at fault. Thus, the false dichotomy.

                How can we reasonably expect consumers to perform comprehensive research studies on everything they purchase?

                We don’t. A small amount of due diligence before they spend thousands on a product is all that is required. It’s not like they’re going to overlook the anti-consumerism that Apple is infamous for.

                Besides, in this specific case, it turned out to be a catastrophic latent failure.

                It doesn’t matter what type of failure it is. The problem is that they often cannot be repaired, and that is intentional user-hostile design.

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    Hmm. I’m still using a 2014 iMac, as its 27" 5k screen still very good for coding (with added memory). Sometimes develops a bunch of thin vertical lines, which come and go maybe dependent on temperature, but hasn’t changed for for ten years and i can live with those. Just wish they’d continue providing security updates for it.

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        I keep pondering grabbing one of those on the cheap and getting one of those kits that turns it into a really nice 27” monitor.

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    Yeah, depending on how widespread this is, it’s probably worse than staingate.

    I bought a 2014 MacBook Pro earlier this year, I got a good deal on it partly because it’s got severe delamination issues. With dark mode, it doesn’t really bother me enough to spend several hours with a bottle of Listerine to fix it yet.

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    Yes, Apple! :-) Obviously Apple doesn’t have the win margins to put proper parts in their hardware…

    Just yesterday I realized my Thinkpad Edge 330 is running w/o any trouble for 11 years now, cost me little above 300€, brand new back then. :-)