• fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
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    2 months ago

    Anyone who says preserving the status quo

    This is an epic straw man. Usually I avoid calling out straw man arguments because you can frame almost any assertion as a straw man and ultimately it doesn’t further discussion. In this case though, you started it.

    If you’re into logical fallacies, I will say that your argument is a false dichotomy. Between “societal collapse” and “status quo” there’s an obvious third option: “try to fix all the broken things”, which is what most people are trying to do. Both societal collapse and status quo are absurd propositions that no reasonable person would subscribe to.

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      2 months ago

      which is what most people are trying to do

      I dont agree that this is happening. Climate pledges are being abandoned. Even recycling in my area has been throttled way back. Internal combustion engine cars are surging back into popularity. One of the biggest possible polluting events are wars, and theres possibly a whole bunch on the horizon. We are not motivated to make progress and our political system seems to be in decline.

      If you look at the trajectories we are on in multiple areas, you can see inevitabilities. I dont fault you for having hope we’ll pull it out at the last second, but I no longer beleive its in our nature to do that.